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Old 07-06-2008, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by liftr92
Wasn't the 727 sim pulled from the building a couple of weeks ago to make room for the new 76 sim? I also thought they took the visual from the 72 sim and put it on something else - I've heard of interviewee's do the A300, 767 FBS, and the MD11 FBS as well - my two cents
The 727 sim is still there. They swapped the visual out between it and the 757 sim as it was supposed to be better.
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Old 07-06-2008, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Archie Bunker
Not exactly true AV8OR. I interviewed in late 2006, and they threw my butt in the MD-11 FTD (no motion or visual).

You're right though....they are going to need that 727 sim for interviews, because the training department is going to be up to its ass in alligators after this displacement bid comes out.
True and when I said full motion sims I should’ve included the 767 and the MD11 FTDs because I know they’re both used a quite often during the most recent interviews…

I said ‘full motion simulators’ just to emphasize that our company has progressed greatly since the Wright Brothers era; you know those ancient days when 767pilot and others were hired...
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Originally Posted by Nashmd11
... Also, have heard from several sources that the 777F is coming. 20 orders...
Heard 10 firm and 10 options.
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Originally Posted by 1800 RVR
As for the -8's, seeing what condition some of them were in at KROW, it will take a while to get them back to airworthy status. Many have been picked over for various parts.
That almost exactly what the SAT manager said when I picked one up outta maintenance almost 2 weeks ago. He said they were coming outta ROW.
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Old 07-06-2008, 08:05 PM
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That almost exactly what the SAT manager said when I picked one up outta maintenance almost 2 weeks ago. He said they were coming outta ROW.
Pardon my ignorance but doesn't ups have 24 months before they transfer the flying to ipa and if so why would they be in a hurry to pull dc8 out .
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Pardon my ignorance but doesn't ups have 24 months before they transfer the flying to ipa and if so why would they be in a hurry to pull dc8 out .
You are correct sir! Also, the company has 24 months AFTER the deal is signed. Nothing prevents the company from outsourcing all this volume for 23months all the while figuring out how to minimize the air volume. Especially in these days of huge fuel costs. Do not forget that UPS is in the top 5 companies in number of railcars owned. Right now, we have a lot of volume that is not "air" that moves by air. This company excels at cost analysis. They'll figure out a way to keep the vast majority of this volume away from the IPA. If we get 20 DC8 equivalents out of this "mega" deal, I'll be amazed. Kinda a glum outlook, but to them its just bidness.

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The 8 issue predated the DHL announcement. I think it has more to do with the stated UPS objectives from last OCT/NOV to pull alot of the 8's outta ROW to use for peak 2008+, then, it would depend on volume. Again, all info from late last year. Additionally, UPS ordered all the 767's that start showing up next year. I personally was curious to see if UPS followed through on reducing present crews to staff the new 767's ordered in 2007. It looks like they have decided not too reduce to much. They have maintained the staffing levels on the 8 even when they parked the 8's as they originally stated. The $64 question that even UPS didn't know, exactly how many they wanted beyond 2009. I suspect they wanted to ebb and flow the fleet, park some in ROW and bring back out for peak each year till aircraft removed from service.
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Originally Posted by Trash Hauler 1
You are correct sir! Also, the company has 24 months AFTER the deal is signed. Nothing prevents the company from outsourcing all this volume for 23months all the while figuring out how to minimize the air volume. Especially in these days of huge fuel costs. Do not forget that UPS is in the top 5 companies in number of railcars owned. Right now, we have a lot of volume that is not "air" that moves by air. This company excels at cost analysis. They'll figure out a way to keep the vast majority of this volume away from the IPA. If we get 20 DC8 equivalents out of this "mega" deal, I'll be amazed. Kinda a glum outlook, but to them its just bidness.

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One more question. If ups fails to transfer the flying to us after 24 months is there a cash out for ipa pilots like we had during the menlo fiasco if so i hope it's big because this is huge compare to menlo.
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Originally Posted by Nashmd11
Had the DC8 FAA guy on the airplane last month, He said 13 coming back on line. Also, have heard from several sources that the 777F is coming. 20 orders. We'll see. Still fliping the coin for ONT/ANC?
I would think that it would be better to have 777Fs based in the lower 48. Isn't it designed to fly SDF/MEM - PVG/HKG, etc? It's alot more capable than the MD-11, I thought they could eliminate the tech stop in ANC because of the improved numbers. I guess time shall tell...
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Originally Posted by Archie Bunker
the training department is going to be up to its ass in alligators after this displacement bid comes out.
You mean geritol?
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