UPS Realignment Bid 08-103/Dispacement 08-202 Bid is open
06-22-2008, 12:17 AM
#101
Thanks for the jumpseat!
Joined APC: Nov 2006
Position: MD-11 galley operator
Posts: 260
Jumpseating has always been and will always be captain's discretion. But if Alaska Airlines will cramp 2 offline guys into their 737 cockpit for a ride up to ANC. I expect our own guys to do the same, at the very least!
The last two encounters I have had with regards to this issue were from 2 captains who are amazingly enough..........commuters themselves!!
The last two encounters I have had with regards to this issue were from 2 captains who are amazingly enough..........commuters themselves!!
06-22-2008, 04:14 AM
#103
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2006
Posts: 3,333
Jumpseating has always been and will always be captain's discretion. But if Alaska Airlines will cramp 2 offline guys into their 737 cockpit for a ride up to ANC. I expect our own guys to do the same, at the very least!
The last two encounters I have had with regards to this issue were from 2 captains who are amazingly enough..........commuters themselves!!
The last two encounters I have had with regards to this issue were from 2 captains who are amazingly enough..........commuters themselves!!
Thanks ViktorBravo - next time a captain is trying to bump me off I'll say ...but "ViktorBravo" said it'd be ok?
06-22-2008, 06:40 AM
#104
Registered User
Joined APC: Apr 2006
Position: Capt: Lav Truck
Posts: 288
06-22-2008, 08:53 AM
#105
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2006
Posts: 3,333
06-22-2008, 09:54 AM
#106
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2008
Position: MD-11 Captain
Posts: 320
Jumpseating has always been and will always be captain's discretion. But if Alaska Airlines will cramp 2 offline guys into their 737 cockpit for a ride up to ANC. I expect our own guys to do the same, at the very least!
The last two encounters I have had with regards to this issue were from 2 captains who are amazingly enough..........commuters themselves!!
The last two encounters I have had with regards to this issue were from 2 captains who are amazingly enough..........commuters themselves!!
06-22-2008, 10:19 AM
#107
Tri-tanic operator
Joined APC: Jul 2006
Position: Doggie
Posts: 2,382
Or try the 8+ hour crossing in a 767 with 2 P3s occuping the "crew rest facility".
The MATRIX is definitely a double-edged sword !
I wasn't here for the negotiations that brought about the Matrix, or the surrounding "issues" ... but I understand what the IPA was/is trying to accomplish through its presence.
FWIW ...
06-22-2008, 12:55 PM
#109
Line Holder
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: C-17A EP, MD-88FO
Posts: 27
Dude...you are spot on
The matrix doesnt say to kick off/refuse pri 7s seats that they have signed up for...but there are Captains out there doing just that. I know of situations where the Cap was only going to take the 3 pri 3's and leave the 2 pri 7's(and 2 open seats) behind..
Sadly the cap can do whatever he wants, but with anc jumpseats at a premium, i hope at some point the IPA steps in w/ a sanity check about screwing your brothers..
shizz
The matrix doesnt say to kick off/refuse pri 7s seats that they have signed up for...but there are Captains out there doing just that. I know of situations where the Cap was only going to take the 3 pri 3's and leave the 2 pri 7's(and 2 open seats) behind..
Sadly the cap can do whatever he wants, but with anc jumpseats at a premium, i hope at some point the IPA steps in w/ a sanity check about screwing your brothers..
shizz
Last edited by shizzle; 06-22-2008 at 01:01 PM.
06-22-2008, 01:10 PM
#110
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2005
Position: Leftof longitudinal
Posts: 1,899
Capts don't leave P-3's behind now, but leave P-7's, Yep, we are better off with the Matrix. Capts delegating authority to a matrix. I'm with it <ng>
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