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Old 06-14-2008, 06:27 AM
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What he probably means is that MEM guys will be going up there now and they will be flying the DP's.
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Old 06-14-2008, 11:07 AM
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Per the contact - For the company to furlough, it looks like they would have to reduce all the bid packs to 48 hours. There is no relief for seat or aircraft. If they did that we wouldn’t have enough pilots.
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Old 06-14-2008, 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Overnitefr8
What he probably means is that MEM guys will be going up there now and they will be flying the DP's.
What I really meant was...on average, the crew force didn't care about not flying DP's before the execess...I suspect there are many more Pi*^&*-off crewmembers and their give a shoot factor is even lower...not a direct stab at MEM.

I'm was just venting and PO'ed! See ya in MEM...
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Old 06-15-2008, 04:40 AM
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Now the attitude will be "The Union said to do/not do what? Like I'll ever listen to THEM again." This is sad.
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Originally Posted by fedupbusdriver
You don't train 700 + just to furlough. They could furlough without any excesses. Filling HKG is the motive here.
I couldn't agree more. This is simply a way to fill HKG.
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Old 06-15-2008, 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by fedupbusdriver
You don't train 700 + just to furlough. They could furlough without any excesses. Filling HKG is the motive here.
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Old 06-16-2008, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Overnitefr8
What he probably means is that MEM guys will be going up there now and they will be flying the DP's.
That's funny. I would like to see the MEM DP flyers go up to ANC so they can get kicked in the jimmies. Might learn them real good.
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Old 06-16-2008, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by bustinmins
I couldn't agree more. This is simply a way to fill HKG.

Thanks to everyone who votes yes to the FDA!
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Old 06-16-2008, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by bustinmins
I couldn't agree more. This is simply a way to fill HKG.
I agree. Eliminating passover pay in the engineer seat and filling the FDA are the ultimate motives of these excesses. I, for one, am not going to freak out until after the multiple excesses and the 777 bid. By that time the seniority lists on the Bus and Maddog will look a lot like they do now.

As we all know, there are probably 20 wonderboys in a room in MEM figuring out how to make this all work while minimizing total cost. Half of them are cost analysts and half are lawyers to interpret the contract. I really don't see how relocating so many pilots, and thusly paying the relocation costs (move packages) is going to save FedEx money in the long run.

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Old 06-16-2008, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by bustinmins
This is simply a way to fill HKG.
The fda bid/canceled FDA bid, vacancy bid/excess bid just doesn't make any sense unless some managers' arse is on the line to get the HKG domicile filled (it appears he managed to talk them into canceling the CDG domicile when no one bid it?).

That manager (PC maybe?) must be angry now and determined to make "us" pay for making him look incompetent ... and that boys and girls is why we are getting jerked around like noob pilots at a second or third tier bankrupt airline. (Oh, and maybe to get the ND's their "rightful" positions back?)

The good news (if there is any) is that "they" are still saying no furloughs ...
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