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Old 05-29-2008, 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by FliFast
I speculate there may be more down the road due to the failure of Boeing to secure the Air Force's tanker order...just speculation on my part.
I was told by a manager that UPS wanted a ton more at that price but since it was just a placeholder to get them through to the AF contract, Boeing wouldn't seel them to us. If Boeing is still trying to hold the line open while they appeal this, maybe we can get some more at the same low low price?
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Old 05-30-2008, 05:11 AM
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Maybe we can buy them with Euros and let the exchange rate work for us! (bg)

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Old 05-30-2008, 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Sniper
There may be more 76 availability than that, considering some of the lift UPS is gaining in a DHL deal comes directly at the expense of ABX, the largest 767 cargo fleet in the world.
Don't want to look like a buzzard circling over a carcass but, do the ABX 767s have a cargo door or are they loaded by that Rube Goldberg contraption through the cockpit door?
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Old 05-30-2008, 01:28 PM
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Heard from a UPS manager the other day that the 777's are definitely on the way. He said to expect an announcement soon. Though I have heard that before and the managers know as much or as little as we line guys do. Anyone hear this latest rumor floating around?

Also any fellow UPSers know if we still have "store credit" with Airbus because of the cancellation of the A300's and 380's?

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Old 05-30-2008, 01:45 PM
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Yes, I heard it very recently from several management types that I had the pleasure to fly with. But, I think the delivery schedule will be years into the future. It will not help us with the estimated 100,000 packages a night from the DHL venture that is currently taking 106 aircraft to fly.
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Old 05-30-2008, 02:38 PM
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You may be right about the slots being available from Boeing. But Boeing usually "saves" slots for customers with large orders. I've also heard we already had slots saved for a small fee last year. 106 aircraft? I dont think ALL of ABX birds went to the DHL contract. I was thinking more like 70 were used between ABX and Astar for DHL.
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Old 05-30-2008, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by blueskydriving
It will not help us with the estimated 100,000 packages a night from the DHL venture that is currently taking 106 aircraft to fly.

We will be lucky to see a substantial increase in flying. UPS has perfected the art of transporting packages in the most efficient manner as possible. I suspect that some will be flown by us on EXISTING flights, some NEW flights, and will see much of it trucked and delivered by rail.

Case in point: sent a package overnight NDA from suburban Chicago to Minneapolis. It NEVER touched an airplane. Went by truck the whole way. However, the customer thinks he is sending it via the air. Most only care that it makes service, and nothing else.
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Old 05-31-2008, 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by 1800 RVR
We will be lucky to see a substantial increase in flying. UPS has perfected the art of transporting packages in the most efficient manner as possible. I suspect that some will be flown by us on EXISTING flights, some NEW flights, and will see much of it trucked and delivered by rail.

Case in point: sent a package overnight NDA from suburban Chicago to Minneapolis. It NEVER touched an airplane. Went by truck the whole way. However, the customer thinks he is sending it via the air. Most only care that it makes service, and nothing else.
You think we'd have to change the name to just next day delivery, there's no air involved!
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Old 05-31-2008, 04:40 PM
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For you UPS guys, what is the service ceiling of the 767-300? I heard one today at FL 430. It was a SDF-LAX flight
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Originally Posted by jumppilot03
For you UPS guys, what is the service ceiling of the 767-300? I heard one today at FL 430. It was a SDF-LAX flight
43,100 or 200, I forget
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