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Old 02-18-2008, 02:51 PM
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For you CIC experts, a little help please...I bid to conflict training and split a block of R-days next month, but I'm still showing R-days remaining in the conflicted block Does the conflicted line usually go away after the conflict window closes, or does it take a little while for scheduling to catch up before the rest of the R-days disappear? Just wondering if I screwed up, or if I need to call someone before the View/Add window opens.

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Call your futures scheduler and ask ...
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Old 02-18-2008, 03:11 PM
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It takes a while until the CIC view add window closes.
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Originally Posted by Some guy
For you CIC experts, a little help please...I bid to conflict training and split a block of R-days next month, but I'm still showing R-days remaining in the conflicted block Does the conflicted line usually go away after the conflict window closes, or does it take a little while for scheduling to catch up before the rest of the R-days disappear? Just wondering if I screwed up, or if I need to call someone before the View/Add window opens.

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I thought under the new training pay rules you can't "split" a block of r-days with training and that they will all drop and you'll be on you own to make up the dropped hours with trips. Let us know how it works out.
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I thought under the new training pay rules you can't "split" a block of r-days with training and that they will all drop and you'll be on you own to make up the dropped hours with trips. Let us know how it works out.
i. If the pilot’s recurrent training conflicts with a block of
R-days but does not split that block (i.e., it does not
leave an R-day(s) both before and after the recurrent
training), then only the R-days in conflict with recurrent
training shall be dropped as a phase-in conflict and
the pilot shall remain responsible for the remaining
R-days.

ii. If the pilot’s recurrent training splits a block of R-days,
then the entire block shall be dropped as a phase-in
conflict and the pilot shall not be responsible for any of
the R-days in that block.

SG was trying to do section ii, many guys are doing that in order to get CIC and pick up a good (relative term these days) trip in the view add window.
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Spoke to Futures and they said my training did not split the block of R-days even though my training starts on the second day of my R-day block. I failed to take into account the 12 hour buffer before/after training which knocks out an R-day on both sides too. So I ended up with paragraph i) above, which leaves me with the rest of my R-days that I didn't want Lesson learned: give myself a 48 hour buffer next time. Hope this makes sense.

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If you conflict with training and after they remove the R days considering the buffer and have a single day left on the front side , can scheduling still have the ability to "move a single R day" to the remaining days after the training?
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If you conflict with training and after they remove the R days considering the buffer and have a single day left on the front side , can scheduling still have the ability to "move a single R day" to the remaining days after the training?
Simple answer NO!

They can only move an R day to earlier in the month and only to the end of a R day string.

Example: You have R days on 11 - 13 and 19-30. They can move an either the 19th or 30th R day to the 14th but not to the 10th.
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Originally Posted by Some guy
Spoke to Futures and they said my training did not split the block of R-days even though my training starts on the second day of my R-day block. I failed to take into account the 12 hour buffer before/after training which knocks out an R-day on both sides too. So I ended up with paragraph i) above, which leaves me with the rest of my R-days that I didn't want Lesson learned: give myself a 48 hour buffer next time. Hope this makes sense.

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Hey SG, I've learned that lesson the hard way as well. I'm sure you will not screw it up again
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CE told me it is one of the most frequently asked questions each month. Probably why I found it at number 3 on the FAQ page on the ALPA site - albeit well after I dorked it and only left one day like the contract reads.

Fool me once . . .
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