I'm back with some thoughts on UPS
01-22-2006, 09:21 AM
#21
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"It will go directly to the FAA and I do not believe any pilot wants to deal with that thorny bush. First there is the issue of violating an FAR, then there may be TSA involvement. On top of all that, the pilot could be charged with "impeding air commerce" (a criminal act)."
ATEMENOUT,
At no point have you had any of us thinking you work remotely close to a UPS cockpit. We understand you don't like unions and envy real pilots, but when you dream **** up like this at least, for your own sake, try to make it minimally realistic. I consider myself pretty savvy at the FARs...it's kinda part of my job. I'm also somewhat familiar with TSA actions and criminal charges brought upon licensed airman. So let's expand on your fantasy discipline hearings:
1) Which FAR is violated when a PIC refuses access to the jumpseat?
2) Site one example of TSA involvement or opinion (against the crew) of a PIC refusing access to a passenger in the jumpseat or cabin.
3) Site one example of "impeding air commerce" charges brought against a crewmember, for any reason, ever. While you're at it explain where "impeding air commerce" is applied.
ATEMENOUT,
At no point have you had any of us thinking you work remotely close to a UPS cockpit. We understand you don't like unions and envy real pilots, but when you dream **** up like this at least, for your own sake, try to make it minimally realistic. I consider myself pretty savvy at the FARs...it's kinda part of my job. I'm also somewhat familiar with TSA actions and criminal charges brought upon licensed airman. So let's expand on your fantasy discipline hearings:
1) Which FAR is violated when a PIC refuses access to the jumpseat?
2) Site one example of TSA involvement or opinion (against the crew) of a PIC refusing access to a passenger in the jumpseat or cabin.
3) Site one example of "impeding air commerce" charges brought against a crewmember, for any reason, ever. While you're at it explain where "impeding air commerce" is applied.
01-22-2006, 12:37 PM
#22
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Joined APC: Oct 2005
Posts: 498
Originally Posted by UPSDISPATCHER
"It will go directly to the FAA and I do not believe any pilot wants to deal with that thorny bush. First there is the issue of violating an FAR, then there may be TSA involvement. On top of all that, the pilot could be charged with "impeding air commerce" (a criminal act)."
ATEMENOUT,
At no point have you had any of us thinking you work remotely close to a UPS cockpit. We understand you don't like unions and envy real pilots, but when you dream **** up like this at least, for your own sake, try to make it minimally realistic. I consider myself pretty savvy at the FARs...it's kinda part of my job. I'm also somewhat familiar with TSA actions and criminal charges brought upon licensed airman. So let's expand on your fantasy discipline hearings:
1) Which FAR is violated when a PIC refuses access to the jumpseat?
2) Site one example of TSA involvement or opinion (against the crew) of a PIC refusing access to a passenger in the jumpseat or cabin.
3) Site one example of "impeding air commerce" charges brought against a crewmember, for any reason, ever. While you're at it explain where "impeding air commerce" is applied.
ATEMENOUT,
At no point have you had any of us thinking you work remotely close to a UPS cockpit. We understand you don't like unions and envy real pilots, but when you dream **** up like this at least, for your own sake, try to make it minimally realistic. I consider myself pretty savvy at the FARs...it's kinda part of my job. I'm also somewhat familiar with TSA actions and criminal charges brought upon licensed airman. So let's expand on your fantasy discipline hearings:
1) Which FAR is violated when a PIC refuses access to the jumpseat?
2) Site one example of TSA involvement or opinion (against the crew) of a PIC refusing access to a passenger in the jumpseat or cabin.
3) Site one example of "impeding air commerce" charges brought against a crewmember, for any reason, ever. While you're at it explain where "impeding air commerce" is applied.
The GOC is the greatest impedence to air commerce at UPS!
01-22-2006, 03:54 PM
#23
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2005
Position: Former 757/767 F/O, now MD-11
Posts: 148
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That could very well be true IRT the GOC. When we did our tour, they had enough flat screen plasma TV's just on the bottom level to start their own happy hour; drinks and all.
Originally Posted by Browntail
The GOC is the greatest impedence to air commerce at UPS!
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