Chainsaw

If you didn't notice that the last contract benefited certain groups over others, you need to read it again. That's really too bad you can't commute to your domicile, live in nirvana and have every contractual benefit in your favor as well. So, rent a moving van or love the VTO. By the way, life isn't fair.....so get a helmet!

MajorKong

My point exactly.

Bohica

What I don't understand is why does the company still build so many reserve lines with carryover if the reserve utilization is so low? What advantage is there for them to pay guys to sit around for an extra 8 days if they're not going to use them?

Gunter

As long as there are carryover trips there will be carryover reserve.

Bohica

Major: That wasn't supposed to be a dig at you, I'm just saying that if those lines are such a great deal, then they would be going senior. I don't think the company is going to change the system to accommodate commuters. I personally don't think its worth being on reserve to get the extra bucks, even if they didn't use me too often, so I don't begrudge other pilots for taking advantage of the system for their benefit. I do agree with the idea of splitting the windows or making the reserves only able to pick up more reserve days instead of cherry trips. Both those options sound very reasonable to me.

Gunter

I know commuters that bid reserve. They have a crash pad and beater car. They could hold lines but like reserve better in most months.

Bohica

Good point.

I can understand some reserve carryover lines, but I can't see the need for so many of them.

Juniority List

Sorry for the repeat, but I forgot the above quote!


I hope that by your 3 smiley faces that you are joking. Reserves have always gotten the shaft when it comes to pay. If we got swept into an airport and you are on your "line" and I am on reserve, even though it is now my line too, I don't get any extra pay like you will. I won't get any overage pay if on reserve.
The fact that reserves get first choice in CIC is odd. But just like substitution, it can turn the most senior guy into anything the company wants. Do I take advantage of it, of course. But I would bet that you take advantage of any contractual "advantage " you have too. Do I feel I'm screwing other pilots, no way! I'm senior to more than half of our pilots. Not a stab, or brag (big friggin deal). But I choose to live in MEM for the quality of life (easy working cond.), and I bid reserve. I figure that if I get and extra 4 days off a month, I've won the game. Yet to do this, I put up with the crappy trips you don't want to fly, and I get paid less to do it. So please don't condemn all the people who either choose to fly reserve or can't hold anything but it and say you want to screw them on the next contract just because you can't live in the mountains and get your double deadheads too. If you don't like it, bid something besides VTO. It's always been a crap shoot anyway.

Dadof6

All you A-300 F/Os senior to me (90%) please bid RA, R24 & RB in that order. Or upgrade. Or have an adventure at an FDA. Once that happens, I'll happily settle for any of your good regular lines that are left!

USNFDX

Loook....

You are only forced to be junior once. After that it is completely up to you!

Nobody is forcing anybody to be a commuter or live in memphis...It's your choice.

I lived in Memphis for 5yrs and did the reserve carryover thing.

I decide to get a life.

Now I'm a commuter, and don't get that good deal!

Life is Good!

My choice.

Make yours... and live with it.