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01-24-2008, 04:26 AM
#21
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IPA for FedEx ??
Good question, Albie do you think a purple/brown union would be possible? After all, we'd have lots of leverage standing together. What do you think?
I would go for the Purple/Brown union in a minute! The Idea of getting "National" out of our pockets and away from driving our collective agenda sounds pretty good to me.
"F" Alpa national's resources. I thought they were supposed to be helping us in return for our money. Why is our comm chair overwhelmed with taskings from "National?"
"F" Alpa national's resources. I thought they were supposed to be helping us in return for our money. Why is our comm chair overwhelmed with taskings from "National?"
The minute you have more than one airline, with more than one seniority list, trying to represent both groups ... you have a mini-ALPA.
ALPA is a multitude of MECs flying in loose formation under the banner of "one union". In reality the MEC with the most political connections, largest membership, and the greatest dues dollars tends to control the direction of the union ... historically speaking.
I can CERTAINLY see where UPS & FedEx pilots have MANY common issues ... but we don't want your stinkin' scooby snacks !
I personally don't think IPA would work for both. After 15+ years in that other union, I am happy to have a union that can focus on one airline's issues only. That can be challenging enough ...
Later, Brown CC
01-24-2008, 04:33 AM
#22
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I have been saying that for a long time. I think all freightdawgs should ban together. Have everyone join (Fed, Brown, Atlas, Kalitta, Southern, ABX, etc). JMHO, but I think ALPA is way more interested in their "bus" drivers, than the "truck" drivers.
01-24-2008, 06:00 AM
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The problem is with our union leadership... not the union.
Our MEC needs to do a better job in many respects, including using the expertise at ALPA national, and not being a suk-up to them.
However, I reserve my right to change my opinion if ALPA decides that Hillary or Obama is the best candidate for president for me.
Our MEC needs to do a better job in many respects, including using the expertise at ALPA national, and not being a suk-up to them.
However, I reserve my right to change my opinion if ALPA decides that Hillary or Obama is the best candidate for president for me.
01-24-2008, 06:40 AM
#26
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Hillary or Obama probably are the best candidate for me, the working stiff. The Man is keepin me down whilst drawin some big a## bonuses and stock options
Doesn't mean they're the best for my country. And as a citizen, I shouldn't just be voting for whomever is going to give me a free lunch. Sure don't want my country to windup in the same position Michigan is in.
No hate mail please, I do have friends in Michigan.....and the economy there isn't what it was years ago
Doesn't mean they're the best for my country. And as a citizen, I shouldn't just be voting for whomever is going to give me a free lunch. Sure don't want my country to windup in the same position Michigan is in.
No hate mail please, I do have friends in Michigan.....and the economy there isn't what it was years ago
01-24-2008, 06:48 AM
#27
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No...I was trying to send a PM and goofed. I ended up putting a PM on the board for about 9.5 seconds.
I didn't think anyone else wanted to see the naked pictures of the MEC in the hot tub, so I deleted it...
My actions speak for how I feel about ALPA verses an independent union. I complained about some issues--then sought folks to run and get involved--then got involved myself. So...I'm in. I'm here. And I want our union to work. I am confident that it will.
I didn't think anyone else wanted to see the naked pictures of the MEC in the hot tub, so I deleted it...
My actions speak for how I feel about ALPA verses an independent union. I complained about some issues--then sought folks to run and get involved--then got involved myself. So...I'm in. I'm here. And I want our union to work. I am confident that it will.
01-24-2008, 07:30 AM
#28
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The problem is with our union leadership... not the union.
Our MEC needs to do a better job in many respects, including using the expertise at ALPA national, and not being a suk-up to them.
However, I reserve my right to change my opinion if ALPA decides that Hillary or Obama is the best candidate for president for me.
Our MEC needs to do a better job in many respects, including using the expertise at ALPA national, and not being a suk-up to them.
However, I reserve my right to change my opinion if ALPA decides that Hillary or Obama is the best candidate for president for me.
As to ALPA endorsing Hillary or Obama, ALPA looks only at their labor and airline positions. It's up to you to decide if other things need consideration in your vote. Keep in mind though, that as strong as your feelings might be about the two Democratic front runners, there are just as many who have the exact same strong feelings about the top Republican candidates.
01-24-2008, 07:38 AM
#29
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No...I was trying to send a PM and goofed. I ended up putting a PM on the board for about 9.5 seconds.
I didn't think anyone else wanted to see the naked pictures of the MEC in the hot tub, so I deleted it...
My actions speak for how I feel about ALPA verses an independent union. I complained about some issues--then sought folks to run and get involved--then got involved myself. So...I'm in. I'm here. And I want our union to work. I am confident that it will.
I didn't think anyone else wanted to see the naked pictures of the MEC in the hot tub, so I deleted it...
My actions speak for how I feel about ALPA verses an independent union. I complained about some issues--then sought folks to run and get involved--then got involved myself. So...I'm in. I'm here. And I want our union to work. I am confident that it will.
That's why you're the poster child for the solution in my opinion.
01-24-2008, 07:43 AM
#30
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The problem is with the membership, not the "leaders." We're the ones that keep the LEC officers in office and don't insist on the recall of LEC officers and MEC officers when they make bonehead decision after decision.
As to ALPA endorsing Hillary or Obama, ALPA looks only at their labor and airline positions. It's up to you to decide if other things need consideration in your vote. Keep in mind though, that as strong as your feelings might be about the two Democratic front runners, there are just as many who have the exact same strong feelings about the top Republican candidates.
As to ALPA endorsing Hillary or Obama, ALPA looks only at their labor and airline positions. It's up to you to decide if other things need consideration in your vote. Keep in mind though, that as strong as your feelings might be about the two Democratic front runners, there are just as many who have the exact same strong feelings about the top Republican candidates.
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