Originally Posted by O'DarkThirty

DW said at the meeting last night the company also has the option per the CBA to offer early retirements and prevent furloughs. The Union was going to approach the company in the near future with this idea.

Originally Posted by O'DarkThirty

It was also interesting to hear a senior Flying Tiger pilot say the company should furlough the junior pilots to protect his income. He was upset with the BLG being at 85 hours/5 week bid month when at this time last year he was getting 92 hours. This same pilot paid his dues at FT with a couple of furloughs.

Originally Posted by Haywood JB

FWIW,

Ground school today, they asked some of the same type of questions, fda, blg, etc. (O was not present) Answers from the management rep for the BLG reductions, they are looking at about three hours of blg(some of us suggested the elimination of carryover, especially the reserve lines, and possible bid month starting on Sunday vice Monday. Talk about the bid and canx, was to hopefully get some of the over 60 crowd to the seats that are undermanned(Mem11 is one he said) and fill some of the FDA. I really think that is wishfull thinking....but we'll see. There was no mention of 777's being late, nor was there any mention on a plan to get the folks trained in the 75...basically the domicile is going to open(which lead me to wonder if all of these guys are going to get trained by someone else until this gets ironed out)

Originally Posted by CI9994ME

"The minimum bid period guarantee shall be reduced to a minimum of 48/60
CH before any pilot is furloughed. At least a full bid period must follow the
announcement of this action. This provision shall only be used to prevent
or delay a furlough"

Now, ponder this....the company IS overmanned due to age 65. The company will be overmanned in the foreseeable future due to age 65. The company can now say, "because we are ONE pilot overmanned, we need to furlough him", thus justifying the reduction in BLG's.

If they try this, and if our MEC doesn't grieve/sue them based on the past history of FedEx NEVER laying off an employee, I will be beyond PI$$ED.

As I see it, the timeline MUST follow these steps:

1. COMPANY DECIDES IT NEEDS TO FURLOUGH
2. COMPANY COMES TO UNION AND SAYS "BLG's ARE GOING DOWN"
3. COMPANY GIVES THE REASON AS "WE NEED TO FURLOUGH"
4. UNION CAN'T SAY SQUAT, because it says "SHALL" be lowered and it's ALL up to the company.

So, my friends, there will be no vote, no appeal, no nothing. All the company has to do is overman the airline either synthetically or actually due to 65, and presto, they now can control the cost of the CBA by lowering BLG's.

And you thought the QOL due to the optimizer would be bad, just wait.

Originally Posted by FDXLAG

Sec 23.A.8
The Company shall notify the Association in writing if it anticipates a furlough or a recall. Upon written request, the Company shall meet and consult with the Association concerning possible adjustments to provisions of this Agreement (e.g., construction of bid period schedules and reducing or eliminating volunteer and draft flying) that may avoid or mitigate the effects of a furlough.

The union does have an input and could propose a lot to eliminate the need to furlough.

Originally Posted by FDXLAG

Sec 23.A.8
The Company shall notify the Association in writing if it anticipates a furlough or a recall. Upon written request, the Company shall meet and consult with the Association concerning possible adjustments to provisions of this Agreement (e.g., construction of bid period schedules and reducing or eliminating volunteer and draft flying) that may avoid or mitigate the effects of a furlough.

The union does have an input and could propose a lot to eliminate the need to furlough.

Originally Posted by CI9994ME

"The minimum bid period guarantee shall be reduced to a minimum of 48/60 CH before any pilot is furloughed. At least a full bid period must follow the announcement of this action. This provision shall only be used to prevent or delay a furlough"