Posting 08-01 Food for Thought...
01-03-2008, 08:28 PM
#23
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Suck it up? Why should we have to do that. That is no way to start your career at a place that well had the means to make the FDA's more inviting. They skimped here as we all know; and I am sure not "sucking it up" for the betterment of the corporation.
So, you may be right...but you may be wrong. First of all it is the principle. Many of us could not vote on the LOA, but I have talked to many who would have had no qualms voting "no" despite the influential talk from thour MEC.
Second, I cannot see how the 2nd or 3rd year pay in an FDA can compare to the 2nd or 3rd year pay as an SO. I am not going to crunch numbers that have been done already. But I still take a plumber's life and pay versus the uncertainties and cost of going to an FDA. In addition, what if you jump for an FDA and then have no ability to bid back stateside for 4+ years? Which is very likely.
We'll have to see if you are right. It is the principle not to $uck, though.
So, you may be right...but you may be wrong. First of all it is the principle. Many of us could not vote on the LOA, but I have talked to many who would have had no qualms voting "no" despite the influential talk from thour MEC.
Second, I cannot see how the 2nd or 3rd year pay in an FDA can compare to the 2nd or 3rd year pay as an SO. I am not going to crunch numbers that have been done already. But I still take a plumber's life and pay versus the uncertainties and cost of going to an FDA. In addition, what if you jump for an FDA and then have no ability to bid back stateside for 4+ years? Which is very likely.
We'll have to see if you are right. It is the principle not to $uck, though.
01-03-2008, 08:31 PM
#24
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Isn't that why they "canceled" the last bid and re-posted it? I'll bet that was exactly the reason. That, and maybe a few over 60 ND's "might" bid it just for grins?
01-03-2008, 09:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by XprsFr8r
I predict a miraculous recovery for FH now that the legislation has been signed. Anyone want to buy a ticket in the pool that picks the day he comes back?
Foxhunter reply on Dec 18:
I wish I could arrange that miraculous recovery.
For the next six weeks I'm not permitted to move my right arm using my right shoulder. I can use a rope and pully or my left arm to increase my range of motion. After these six weeks I have another four weeks of physical therepy. This would make a ticket in the pool for late February. I'll try my best to beat that date because I miss you guys so much but I'm told that is really tough to do. I have been able to run or go on the treadmill almost every day so I'll be able to keep up with guys when I return to work.
I think XprsFr8r's prediction will come true. George will have a miraculous recovery. The bid closes on Feb 18.
Originally Posted by XprsFr8r
I predict a miraculous recovery for FH now that the legislation has been signed. Anyone want to buy a ticket in the pool that picks the day he comes back?
Foxhunter reply on Dec 18:
I wish I could arrange that miraculous recovery.
For the next six weeks I'm not permitted to move my right arm using my right shoulder. I can use a rope and pully or my left arm to increase my range of motion. After these six weeks I have another four weeks of physical therepy. This would make a ticket in the pool for late February. I'll try my best to beat that date because I miss you guys so much but I'm told that is really tough to do. I have been able to run or go on the treadmill almost every day so I'll be able to keep up with guys when I return to work.I think XprsFr8r's prediction will come true. George will have a miraculous recovery. The bid closes on Feb 18.
01-03-2008, 11:27 PM
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Sounds like FH may be hoisted on his own retard....I mean petard. After such firm statements about his inFIRMity, a sudden reversal could lead to suspicion of disingenuously ingenious use of sick leave.....Maybe he meant he was taking care of a family member who had a bum shoulder under FMLA
01-04-2008, 06:17 AM
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I don't think any of the F/O slots and only some of the 757 Capt slots will be filled by the over 60 crowd. Unless, that is all their seniority would allow them to hold.
They will just wait for the upcoming excess bid, and go where they want. This seems like a no-brainer.
They will just wait for the upcoming excess bid, and go where they want. This seems like a no-brainer.
I agree with bus. As long as this crowd realizes that if they are excessed, they can go to any seat they can hold. Since I am only trying to move from 11FM to 11FA, I sure hope the greed doesn't overpower common sense.
I'll say it again for emphasis..."99 OVER 60 GUYS, YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE A LOWLY ANC F/O JOB IF YOU WAIT FOR THE EXCESS BID! THINK ABOUT THE NIGHTMARE COMMUTE!
Please, let me get my wife out of east central Mississippi!
01-04-2008, 07:28 AM
#30
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I don't think any of the F/O slots and only some of the 757 Capt slots will be filled by the over 60 crowd. Unless, that is all their seniority would allow them to hold.
They will just wait for the upcoming excess bid, and go where they want. This seems like a no-brainer.
They will just wait for the upcoming excess bid, and go where they want. This seems like a no-brainer.
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