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Old 12-31-2007, 10:58 PM
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Well in yet another "it doesn't have to be like this" scenarios around here....
For those of us unfortunate enough to land in MEM just prior to midnight on New Years Eve, and unfortunate enough that not one of the only 6 outbounds the next morning were going to your home city, we were all denied sleep rooms although only 15 or so were occupied. I guess somebody decided that only hub turns and stbys can get rooms, no matter what. Even if they are all open. A whole bunch of us waiting for the jumpseats on the airlines the next morning were pretty ticked off. I have been on the road since before Christmas and it sure would have been nice to get some sleep before walking through the pax side and going home to the fam. What the hell do we have those things back there for anyway if we can't use them?

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Old 12-31-2007, 11:18 PM
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Sounds like it's time for "O" to lead from the front again...

wonder who made the decision to deny? anyone get a name?
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Probably had something to do with fewer room cleaners during the holiday.
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Old 01-01-2008, 12:43 AM
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What is going on over at FedEx? According to some of our guys (at UPS), it's like nirvana over there.

According to him, "They treat their pilots like gold over there".
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Who'd you talk to? I had this happen once before and once we realized it was happening we opened them all up. Did you call the DO or just take it from the dude or dudette behind the Flt Coord desk. Probably ought to have the home phone number of the RCP on speed dial.....
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Originally Posted by fecav8r
Who'd you talk to? I had this happen once before and once we realized it was happening we opened them all up. Did you call the DO or just take it from the dude or dudette behind the Flt Coord desk. Probably ought to have the home phone number of the RCP on speed dial.....

I agree. If you just took it without calling the DO and asking for an exception to the rule, then it's your own fault. The folks at the desk are just upholding the policy they were given. The DO can authorize exceptions. If the DO denied it, then that's a different story.
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Old 01-01-2008, 07:28 AM
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I disagree. This type of thing goes on each and every Christmas and New Years. A number of years ago I was operating as an Airbus F/O. It was Christmas eve and we were scheduled to fly from Memphis up to IAD, then layover for two days and fly back. The Captain, along with his wife, who was a US Airways pilot, riding our jumpseat, were going to go to the National Cathedral for Christmas Mass, while I was going to jumpseat home for the holiday. Upon our block in at the ramp at IAD, the ramp agent came up and told us we weren't laying over, but had to operate back to Memphis. Needless to say, the Captain was beside himself, but when we landed in Memphis, at about 11 P.M., he and his wife went back to their home. I, on the other hand was now in a place I'd not planned on, so I went to the desk and asked for a sleep room. I was told "NO", but after I talked with the Duty Officer, a room was provided, and the next morning I jumped home.

A suggestion to management might be to allow guys to use the sleep rooms, on these particular nights, for no reason at all, except the fact that they're there. This doesn't have to be a precedent, just a nice humanitarian gesture, on the part of management, for guys doing the company's business, while away from home on these holidays. This is a wheel that doesn't need to be reinvented each and every year.
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Old 01-01-2008, 08:47 AM
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They opened the sleep rooms for anyone on X-Mas night......Slept like a baby too!
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Old 01-01-2008, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by fecav8r
Who'd you talk to? I had this happen once before and once we realized it was happening we opened them all up. Did you call the DO or just take it from the dude or dudette behind the Flt Coord desk. Probably ought to have the home phone number of the RCP on speed dial.....
I'm kinda new here but have been told these rooms are only for standbys and hub turners. Is there some sort of special deal on X-mas and New Years?

It wouldn't occur to me to call the DO if I knew I was asking for something against the rules.
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I can see your point, if the place was empty, but I also was under the impression that the rooms were only available for hub turners and standbys.

If people are using them if they come in from a flight and are jumpseating out, and that's the reason why "all the rooms are full" I'd be ticked off!

But, like the original post said, "I guess somebody decided that only hub turns and stbys can get rooms, no matter what." I thought that was the policy anyway.
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