Adlerdriver

Someone jump in if I'm out to lunch but, the way I understand it - the deal the SFS guys had was the result of the Phillipine government's policy of not taxing expats.
Hong Kong & France have no such policy and the options are to pay foreign taxes or the tax equalization in the current LOA.

So - I don't think there is the option of just "getting the same deal as the SFS guys originally had". New govmints - New rules.

XprsFr8r

Correct. One of the original SFS guys can chime in, but the way I remember it, when the USN and USAF pulled out of Cubi and Clark, the Phillipine government wanted to start some sort of free trade zone and offered lots of tax breaks to get business into Cubi. Acer computer was one of them too. No way the French or Chinese are going to make us the same offer.

Spur

Min BLG does not mean they need to build any line that low. It is just the min guarantee. On any given month the min constructed BLG can be as high as they can get and still have the required days off and be within the required spread. For example under the last CBA there were O&B lines that paid 96 hours in a 5 week month. Yet 85 + 8.5 = 93.5. So by your theory this would not have been possible, but it was.

As I said before, there is no max BLG, except what is constrained with min days off.

DiamondZ

So the FDA bids will not be cancelled. According to the 300 training letter, starting end of Jan a FO, 12th from the bottom, will begin training.

Will the company start to train this individual and then furlough?

Just doesnt seem to make sense. During the next 3 months, there will be 2 very junior members being trained per month.

Unless the over 60 folk fill the right seat, wouldnt these individuals provide furlough protection?

jagplt

Unless I'm mistaken they can't cancel a bid by contract... but they can cancel individual awards.

So cancel the awards from the 02 and 03 bids... re-evaluate the seat requirements and open up a bid to the FDA's. I'm sure they would get quite a bit of "experience" bidding to get back in the front seats.

how close am I getting here?

Daniel Larusso

Seems like another 'techincally right' issue. Your point answers another question I had on another thread. They could use what you said to reduce the BLG on some fleets vs. others, ie Mem MD-11 vs. every other fleet in the company. 727, ANC 11, LAX 11, and MEM 300 PSIT notes all report reduced BLG average targets being requested by the company resulting in several lines being built below the min and being bought up. They don't mention it, but I suspect the same is true of the -10. According to the PSIT this is all due to the block hour spread. Following the worm hole, it seems likely that if the company reduces the min BLG down to 48/60, the majority of the fleets will see a corresponding drop in the target average blg which will then be constrained by the line spread as it is today. IOW if the company says target 48 hours on say the Boeing and the -10, then several lines will be built to below 48 hours to get the average and the high BLG line will likely be below 61/73. The current 727 bid pack has a low line credit of 84 and a high credit of 95:35 to get the average. So yes there is no max blg, only a min but why would they want to drop the average if they don't intend to use the advantages of such a move?

Deuce130

I have an opinion, too. Jetjok, thank you for your service. Thank you for helping make FDX the company it is today. Thank you for your military service. Thank you for your many insightful posts on APC.com. I appreciate it all. But, from here on out, you and people like you are contributing to the molehill that many of us are making into a mountain. The only other thing I want to hear from you from here on out is your retirement announcement. If your decision to hang around the AOC negatively impacts the crewforce, then all of your contributions to date don't count for a dang thing.

Jetjok

So, tell me again, who died and made you boss? Will you say the same thing to everyone who now turns 60 and decides to continue working. Guys like you make me sick! And truth be told, it's guys like you that make me want to hang around.

jungle

Duece, why don't you just go ahead and retire now-it's for the children, I mean the crew force. You could help those new hires by giving up your position early and making way for those behind you. Have you stopped and thought for a single moment about your negative impact?
The only thing I want to hear from you is your retirement announcement.

Sounds stupid doesn't it?

Rather than waste time telling individuals on this board their lifetime contributions are now worthless because you aren't going to get what you think you deserve when you think you deserve it, try acting like an adult and accept responsibility rather than shifting it to others. There are many variables to be worked out in the near term. What are you going to do to help the entire crew force other than try to deny a change in Federal Law?

subicpilot

I think the part of the deal that chaps people is the tax equalization and the manner it is being implemented. The foreign earned income exclusion is an federal IRS deal. It has nothing to do with FedEx. However, FedEx is not allowing individual pilots who bid a FDA to take advantage of this provision, because THEY are going to take it to help offset the cost of paying the foreign taxes incurred by the pilot. The right thing to do here, in my opinion, is for the company just to pay the tax and allow the individual pilots to take the deduction. This would offset the increased cost of living, and provide a little incentive to fill seats in HKG and CDG.