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07-30-2008, 08:12 AM
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The 65 thing goes straight to the top for blame.
The Europeans started doing it, Bush approved foreign pilots to do it in U.S. airspace, then Congress approved our pilots to do it. The first two made it inevitable, but Congress got a solid tailwind to pass it quickly too.
How did Congress get the cojones to change it so quickly with a unanimous vote? They obtained 2 justifications. The first was support from ALPA. Much more importantly, they obtained the airline industry's 'warnings' about a pilot shortage. This one sealed the deal.
In short we fell victim to the American way. The mandate to support business with cheap labor always wins.
The Europeans started doing it, Bush approved foreign pilots to do it in U.S. airspace, then Congress approved our pilots to do it. The first two made it inevitable, but Congress got a solid tailwind to pass it quickly too.
How did Congress get the cojones to change it so quickly with a unanimous vote? They obtained 2 justifications. The first was support from ALPA. Much more importantly, they obtained the airline industry's 'warnings' about a pilot shortage. This one sealed the deal.
November 30, 2007
More pilot shortage warnings
We've written a lot lately about the pilot shortage and some of the impact on pilot hiring, particularly at regional airlines. Now, the International Air Transport Association is warning that a severe global shortage is looming unless airlines and governments work together to address pilot training and qualifications.
The trade group estimated that the industry will need 17,000 new pilots annually thanks to growth and retirements. Here's what the association said in a news release:
“Increasing the retirement age to 65 will help but it can’t be the only solution. It’s time to ring the warning bell. We must re-think pilot training and qualification to further improve safety and increase training capacity,” said Giovanni Bisignani, IATA Director General and CEO. He told the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) International Safety Forum that industry is concerned that “there are no global standards for training concepts or regulation. Pilot training has not changed in 60 years -- we are still ticking boxes with an emphasis on flight hours.”
More pilot shortage warnings
We've written a lot lately about the pilot shortage and some of the impact on pilot hiring, particularly at regional airlines. Now, the International Air Transport Association is warning that a severe global shortage is looming unless airlines and governments work together to address pilot training and qualifications.
The trade group estimated that the industry will need 17,000 new pilots annually thanks to growth and retirements. Here's what the association said in a news release:
“Increasing the retirement age to 65 will help but it can’t be the only solution. It’s time to ring the warning bell. We must re-think pilot training and qualification to further improve safety and increase training capacity,” said Giovanni Bisignani, IATA Director General and CEO. He told the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) International Safety Forum that industry is concerned that “there are no global standards for training concepts or regulation. Pilot training has not changed in 60 years -- we are still ticking boxes with an emphasis on flight hours.”
08-05-2008, 07:17 PM
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Yeah, you say potatoe..............Maybe I shouldn't have said "Vote". I should have said "POLE". What's the freaking difference. We were asked our opinion and we told them, NO 65. Let's stop splitting hair's.
08-06-2008, 10:40 AM
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08-07-2008, 10:16 AM
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re: supermario;
Sorry the response came to late. I said a "vote" was taken by ALPA with regard to the age 65 deal and I was reminded that it was a"Poll". Either way, the overall concensus was "We didn't support the age 65 deal"!
Sorry the response came to late. I said a "vote" was taken by ALPA with regard to the age 65 deal and I was reminded that it was a"Poll". Either way, the overall concensus was "We didn't support the age 65 deal"!
08-07-2008, 06:58 PM
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