FDX (and maybe UPS?) "Sweeps" - A Question from an Outsider
01-03-2008, 03:29 AM
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I thought it was 7 hours?
01-03-2008, 09:54 AM
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8 if you include the one hour show. 8 hours of duty time. They can't launch you in the first hour as that's your prelight/briefing time. Or, at least that's how it worked back in the hot PHX days.
01-03-2008, 02:33 PM
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Veteran Hot in all seats.
Yes, I'm junior
They did sweeps through 96-97 at UPS. With the bigger aircraft (757) was smarter to use overflight aircraft to drop in and recover volume or launch a dedicated Hot to recover.
01-04-2008, 06:45 AM
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If you have extra room on the aircraft, you are in the mix for a sweep. The best defense for not getting dropped into a city to recover extra freight is to get on the 11. The aircraft is too big for some ramps and takes too long to turn around. They call the 727 the slave ship for a reason....the unplanned sweep is just one of them.
01-05-2008, 09:06 AM
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01-06-2008, 08:15 PM
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If you have extra room on the aircraft, you are in the mix for a sweep. The best defense for not getting dropped into a city to recover extra freight is to get on the 11. The aircraft is too big for some ramps and takes too long to turn around. They call the 727 the slave ship for a reason....the unplanned sweep is just one of them.
I haven't yet had the opportunity to delve into my current employers recovery plans, but the Hots and the partial load flights seems to be the most efficient ways of doing things. Though I don't get the impression that the Brown air operation has the flexibility of the Purple one... But I'm the FNG, what do I know?
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01-06-2008, 08:36 PM
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I believe it's pretty rare to get "dropped" into a city to recover volume from a broken plane. I know it hasn't happened to me since the 727 days, wonder how often it happens to other brown folks? It just doesn't seem to be how UPS runs the system. They will lauch the hot to cover before they reroute another plane. I just don't see a lot of unplanned reroutes in our system.
01-07-2008, 03:01 AM
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I believe it's pretty rare to get "dropped" into a city to recover volume from a broken plane. I know it hasn't happened to me since the 727 days, wonder how often it happens to other brown folks? It just doesn't seem to be how UPS runs the system. They will lauch the hot to cover before they reroute another plane. I just don't see a lot of unplanned reroutes in our system.
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01-07-2008, 07:08 AM
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One of the sweeps for FDX is the Duluth flight on the Bus - Sit at the airport for an hour at the luxury DLH ramp office - the best in our system 
- then you fly a big zig-zag across to South Bend,IN back to Springfield, MO then on to Memphis - what really sucks is when ATC asks if you want to go direct to MEM and you have to say no..... The flight miles are more than double the direct flight.. FUN!!
Oh and you leave DLH with about 5K in cargo so you've got plenty of room to add on freight.
- then you fly a big zig-zag across to South Bend,IN back to Springfield, MO then on to Memphis - what really sucks is when ATC asks if you want to go direct to MEM and you have to say no..... The flight miles are more than double the direct flight.. FUN!! Oh and you leave DLH with about 5K in cargo so you've got plenty of room to add on freight.
01-07-2008, 08:00 AM
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One of the sweeps for FDX is the Duluth flight on the Bus - Sit at the airport for an hour at the luxury DLH ramp office - the best in our system - then you fly a big zig-zag across to South Bend,IN back to Springfield, MO then on to Memphis - what really sucks is when ATC asks if you want to go direct to MEM and you have to say no..... The flight miles are more than double the direct flight.. FUN!!
Oh and you leave DLH with about 5K in cargo so you've got plenty of room to add on freight.
- then you fly a big zig-zag across to South Bend,IN back to Springfield, MO then on to Memphis - what really sucks is when ATC asks if you want to go direct to MEM and you have to say no..... The flight miles are more than double the direct flight.. FUN!! Oh and you leave DLH with about 5K in cargo so you've got plenty of room to add on freight.
