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Old 12-28-2007, 05:23 AM
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I think the way to handle this is to have the union buy back the trip.
Signed: DW But the Office doesn't open up till 9AM Mecca time.
At least JF opens his schedule, unlike BC.
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Old 12-28-2007, 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by boost
OK Everyone, here is the only safe way I have found to pick up Open Time with so many disputed pairings floating around out there.

1. Buy the BidX program at www.bidx.org (just a fan, not a paid endorser)
2. Go to the Customize tab
3. Select the Advanced tab/ Enter Disputed pairings
4. Go to SIG email and Copy the disputed numbers for your base and plane, and Paste them in the Enter Disputed Pairing window
5. Use the Get OT button on the Customize page to do any of your trip trade with open time stuff. All the disputed pairings can be displayed in red or not at all.
6. It is now impossible to pick up a DP, and maybe someday our schedules will improve because they are getting pretty crappy.

Voila!
This is exactly right! During the frenzy last night I was chatting with a couple of bubbas while they were trying to trade trips and they almost did what JF did. The company makes some of those DPs look inviting with the DHs. I used BidX last night for my first trip trades in a long time and have the feature to mark and/or removed the DPs from probably saved me from a stupid mistake. Worth every penny, as Fastbid has been, as well, and PH could be more responsive!
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Old 12-28-2007, 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Gogojoe
Actually it was my second post not my first.
Funny thing, if you actually go and read what my first post was about.
I am pretty busy with National issues.
I do not care about your support or lack there of.
I will not have fun in Paris because I will get rid of the trip.
I said I screwed up, what more would you have me do?
Right out of the DW playbook! Just another typical response from "our elected officials". I say we make getting rid of Agency Shop high on the list next contract. At least the guys actually flying the line might have a way to get something changed in the ivory palace.
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Old 12-28-2007, 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Gogojoe
I did get the email, wise ass, and I ********* it up.
I am in the process of getting rid of that trip right now.
As Bartles and James used to say, "... and thanks for your support".
as a member of FDX ALPA, you should be glad the other crew members are doing a good job of ensuring anyone on a DP, knows its a DP. there are NO excuses for flying a DP, unless on reserve.

everyone makes mistakes...but not everyone corrects them or acts professional when they make one.
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Old 12-28-2007, 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by frozenboxhauler
Guys, I say cut him some slack. I have the upmost respect for JF. He and a very small number of others are the reason that we have representation here, in the first place! He screwed up, he's fixing it,...lets move on.
I'm ready for the incoming.
Happy New Year to one and all and I hope that you'll be where you want to be. I won't, but planning on making the best of it
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Thanks FBH, I very much appreciate your remarks.

That being said, I stayed up trading until pretty late last night without much luck.
Got up real early this am and hit it hard again starting at 06:00.
I finally traded off it just now at 08:45.

I am no longer on a disputed pairing and I will be more careful next time!

I beg the indulgence of all those I riled-up with a boneheaded mistake.
I got a call late last night that I had done this from a friend and felt like a
"chooch" (Italian for dope).
In actuality, I carefully entered all the DPs in the program BidX so they show up in red. Then I traded on the company web site without looking.
JF

PS:
For all those that spoke of all my time off/trips being bought:
I do about 13 weeks a year for the union.
I try like hell to bid AROUND those union activities.
It is very rare for the union to buy a trip for me.
I believe in the spirit of volunteerism in union activities and always have.
You may like me or hate me, but I don't cost you a dime!

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Old 12-28-2007, 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Gogojoe
I don't cost you a dime!

I beg to differ, you just cost me 5 years of pay difference between F/O and Captain. Plus interest, plus 5 more years of missing Christmas and birthdays, etc!

Thanks for dropping the DP, at least that's something.
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Old 12-28-2007, 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by boost
OK Everyone, here is the only safe way I have found to pick up Open Time with so many disputed pairings floating around out there.

1. Buy the BidX program at www.bidx.org (just a fan, not a paid endorser)
2. Go to the Customize tab
3. Select the Advanced tab/ Enter Disputed pairings
4. Go to SIG email and Copy the disputed numbers for your base and plane, and Paste them in the Enter Disputed Pairing window
5. Use the Get OT button on the Customize page to do any of your trip trade with open time stuff. All the disputed pairings can be displayed in red or not at all.
6. It is now impossible to pick up a DP, and maybe someday our schedules will improve because they are getting pretty crappy.
Voila!
The other way is the FREE (or paid) version of MagicWebFX which auto-loads all the DPs. Some functions remain FREE after the trial period because I wanted everyone to be able to "see and avoid" DPs. Kinda hard to miss them in the text file when it says:

#-#-#-#-#- DISPUTED PAIRING -#-#-#-#-#-
Trip XXX MEM 99 00Jan 08
#-#-#-#-#- DISPUTED PAIRING -#-#-#-#-#-

Of course, these are personal PC-based solutions and do not provide protection when trip trading from a Grid computer terminal. For that, one needs to either abstain or have a printed DP list handy.

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Old 12-28-2007, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Gogojoe
Thanks FBH, I very much appreciate your remarks.

That being said, I stayed up trading until pretty late last night without much luck.
Got up real early this am and hit it hard again starting at 06:00.
I finally traded off it just now at 08:45.

I am no longer on a disputed pairing and I will be more careful next time!

I beg the indulgence of all those I riled-up with a boneheaded mistake.
I got a call late last night that I had done this from a friend and felt like a
"chooch" (Italian for dope).
In actuality, I carefully entered all the DPs in the program BidX so they show up in red. Then I traded on the company web site without looking.
JF


PS:
For all those that spoke of all my time off/trips being bought:
I do about 13 weeks a year for the union.
I try like hell to bid AROUND those union activities.
It is very rare for the union to buy a trip for me.
I believe in the spirit of volunteerism in union activities and always have.
You may like me or hate me, but I don't cost you a dime!
Hey Joe, ya chooch. I still love ya'. Probably oughta think about the "I don't care about your support" lines though. Lots of folks out there looking for an opening to take a shot at "The Old Guard" of ALPA.
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Old 12-28-2007, 08:12 AM
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I almost picked up a DP last night also. It would have fit nicely in my schedule. However, about an hour prior to trip trade zero hour, I went back to the SIG letter and checked all the trips I was trying to trade for and, voila, saw that one of those trips was a DP. I disagree with the SIG as to why it's a DP, but honored their intentions and took it of my list. Unfortunately someone else didn't.

Jim, are you working on a DP advisory for FastBid?
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Old 12-28-2007, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Purple F/O
I beg to differ, you just cost me 5 years of pay difference between F/O and Captain. Plus interest, plus 5 more years of missing Christmas and birthdays, etc!

Thanks for dropping the DP, at least that's something.
You make it sound like JF personally set you back in the right seat for 5 years. I know you know that isn't true, so why would you insinuate something so completely wrong? Maybe you just still need to vent.

Guys are entitled to make an honest mistake. It looks like that's what happened here. It's the habitual offenders we need to root out and make an example of.
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