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Old 12-16-2007, 07:28 AM
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We get our first 777 in 09. When the first bid comes out, I suspect that every Capt award will go to a 60+ guy. If you can't have 2 60+ on an international flight, I wonder how the company will handle the 60+ guys who bid the right seat? I see lots of passover pay and a scheduling nightmare for the company. This could get real interesting.
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Originally Posted by AerisArmis
We get our first 777 in 09. When the first bid comes out, I suspect that every Capt award will go to a 60+ guy. If you can't have 2 60+ on an international flight, I wonder how the company will handle the 60+ guys who bid the right seat? I see lots of passover pay and a scheduling nightmare for the company. This could get real interesting.
I suspect you are wrong. What is the incentive to bid it except it is new. Why would anyone want to go from the choice of 400 lines to 10-12 lines even if number 1. No more double DHDs, flying to your home city, the ability to fly to a different area of the world each month, the same pay rate.
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Old 12-16-2007, 07:57 AM
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I suspect you are wrong. What is the incentive to bid it except it is new. Why would anyone want to go from the choice of 400 lines to 10-12 lines even if number 1. No more double DHDs, flying to your home city, the ability to fly to a different area of the world each month, the same pay rate.
Have you read a bidpack lately? Maybe you did "fall and hurt your shoulder" and they forgot to diagnose a head injury. How many double DH to home city do you see?
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Old 12-16-2007, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by fdxflyer
Have you read a bidpack lately? Maybe you did "fall and hurt your shoulder" and they forgot to diagnose a head injury. How many double DH to home city do you see?
Yes, I've looked at the bid pack. Looks like a lot of great lines. Read what I said. Plenty of double dhds. Nice lines to my home city, PHL, WRI, DOV or close by EWR, JFK, IAD, BWI. Easy FLL dhds. The 777 would be fun to fly but the number of aircraft will not be high enough until I'm well past age 65. If they change the age to 70 or eliminate it I may have to reconsider.
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Originally Posted by FoxHunter
Yes, I've looked at the bid pack. Looks like a lot of great lines. Read what I said. Plenty of double dhds. Nice lines to my home city, PHL, WRI, DOV or close by EWR, JFK, IAD, BWI. Easy FLL dhds. The 777 would be fun to fly but the number of aircraft will not be high enough until I'm well past age 65. If they change the age to 70 or eliminate it I may have to reconsider.
You're funny George! Let see if anybody takes your bait.
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You're funny George! Let see if anybody takes your bait.
I know that you guys are way too smart to do that.
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Originally Posted by AerisArmis
We get our first 777 in 09. When the first bid comes out, I suspect that every Capt award will go to a 60+ guy. If you can't have 2 60+ on an international flight, I wonder how the company will handle the 60+ guys who bid the right seat? I see lots of passover pay and a scheduling nightmare for the company. This could get real interesting.
How many of the ROPEs were steam guage drivers that never saw glass? A good IQ test would be to see if those gents bid ANY glass. I am NOT old guy bashing here FH.. In my schoolhouse days, it was my non-scientific observation that the difficulty transitioning to glass for the first time was nearly an exponential curve for those closer to "the regulated age". 200% training was more common, more failures, etc... I think the old glass guys would be better off going back to their former MD11 and A300 spots. Many ex steam guage drivers will have a very hard time with this whole mess. "May you live in interesting times."
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How many of the ROPEs were steam guage drivers that never saw glass? A good IQ test would be to see if those gents bid ANY glass. I am NOT old guy bashing here FH.. In my schoolhouse days, it was my non-scientific observation that the difficulty transitioning to glass for the first time was nearly an exponential curve for those closer to "the regulated age". 200% training was more common, more failures, etc... I think the old glass guys would be better off going back to their former MD11 and A300 spots. Many ex steam guage drivers will have a very hard time with this whole mess. "May you live in interesting times."
The problems with transition from steam to glass today is probably as big as the transition from props to jets in the late 50s early 60s. The guys that hung on to the DC10 or 727 did not do themselves a favor unless thy expect to ride those airplanes into retirement

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Old 12-16-2007, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by FoxHunter
I suspect you are wrong. What is the incentive to bid it except it is new.
George, I'm talking about the guys 60+ now, who are plumbing. The first Capt bid they see could be the 777. The incentive to take the first available WB Capt bid is obvious.
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