Indy De-ice Follies
#31
Folks, here's the reality. A full-out de-ice event MIGHT happen 2 or 3 times per year in either MEM or IND. I am not referring to getting squirted down for frost, I mean a no kidding PTOCC necessary event. It costs FedEx MONEY, and lots of it, to retool the de-icing infrastructure to be prepared as though we were constantly operating out of ice-station zebra. IF there are service failures like the ones resulting from the IND situation - WE PASS IT ON TO THE CUSTOMER. FEDEX doesn't see a need to spend the capital to prevent something that we don't pay for anyway.
I don't agree with that philosophy and ANY time I am in the jet I make it incumbent upon myself to operate an on-schedule or early trip. I try to imagine that there has got to be a bunch of stuff on the aircraft that is super time-sensitive or we wouldn't be hauling it. It's just that the bean-counters don't care that deeply.
IMHO of course which is normally ignored anyway!
Cheers
I don't agree with that philosophy and ANY time I am in the jet I make it incumbent upon myself to operate an on-schedule or early trip. I try to imagine that there has got to be a bunch of stuff on the aircraft that is super time-sensitive or we wouldn't be hauling it. It's just that the bean-counters don't care that deeply.
IMHO of course which is normally ignored anyway!
Cheers
The huge capitol investment has already been made.
The bulk of the problem in IND is a result of extremely poor coordination/Leadership and training.
Yes there is money involved in that managers are pinched, so they are reluctant to spend it on training and overtime for qualified people.
They would rather hire someone off the street to deice then pay an AMT overtime. Hence barely qualified people with 100% turnover.
The guy in Dallas, who doesn't get his overnight, that he was really counting on, doesn't really care that we had snow showers in Indy. Just that brand X didn't get him his package on time and there is no reason to pay a premium for this service.
Last edited by USNFDX; 12-06-2007 at 12:38 PM.
#33
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Folks, here's the reality. A full-out de-ice event MIGHT happen 2 or 3 times per year in either MEM or IND. I am not referring to getting squirted down for frost, I mean a no kidding PTOCC necessary event. It costs FedEx MONEY, and lots of it, to retool the de-icing infrastructure to be prepared as though we were constantly operating out of ice-station zebra. IF there are service failures like the ones resulting from the IND situation - WE PASS IT ON TO THE CUSTOMER. FEDEX doesn't see a need to spend the capital to prevent something that we don't pay for anyway.
I don't agree with that philosophy and ANY time I am in the jet I make it incumbent upon myself to operate an on-schedule or early trip. I try to imagine that there has got to be a bunch of stuff on the aircraft that is super time-sensitive or we wouldn't be hauling it. It's just that the bean-counters don't care that deeply.
IMHO of course which is normally ignored anyway!
Cheers
I don't agree with that philosophy and ANY time I am in the jet I make it incumbent upon myself to operate an on-schedule or early trip. I try to imagine that there has got to be a bunch of stuff on the aircraft that is super time-sensitive or we wouldn't be hauling it. It's just that the bean-counters don't care that deeply.
IMHO of course which is normally ignored anyway!
Cheers
#34
I'm sorry but I will have to disagree with you here. Tuesday night was NOT a big weather event. They got maybe 2-3 inches snow. There was NO FRZGN RN. The airport authority had runways and taxiways in nice shape. The FCIF hyped something that wasn't.
The huge capitol investment has already been made.
The bulk of the problem in IND is a result of extremely poor coordination/Leadership and training.
Yes there is money involved in that managers are pinched, so they are reluctant to spend it on training and overtime for qualified people.
They would rather hire someone off the street to deice then pay an AMT overtime. Hence barely qualified people with 100% turnover.
The guy in Dallas, who doesn't get his overnight, that he was really counting on, doesn't really care that we had snow showers in Indy. Just that brand X didn't get him his package on time and there is no reason to pay a premium for this service.
The huge capitol investment has already been made.
The bulk of the problem in IND is a result of extremely poor coordination/Leadership and training.
Yes there is money involved in that managers are pinched, so they are reluctant to spend it on training and overtime for qualified people.
They would rather hire someone off the street to deice then pay an AMT overtime. Hence barely qualified people with 100% turnover.
The guy in Dallas, who doesn't get his overnight, that he was really counting on, doesn't really care that we had snow showers in Indy. Just that brand X didn't get him his package on time and there is no reason to pay a premium for this service.
I was more or less referring to the extensive "recommendation letter" that was sent to the chief pilot.
My point is this company is not going to spend money on stuff that they can "write off" to weather.
I myself, several years ago, had paid FULL PRICE to ship loan closing documents to my home for a new home that we were to close on a Friday. The shipment did not arrive. I called FedEx to inquire and they said that there was a "weather delay" and that no package + no refund was my expectation. I happened to be JUMPSEATING on the jet that was supposed to be afflicted by the weather delay. WE ARRIVED ON TIME. I had a friend who is a CSA pull up the shipment/tracking data and found that the truck with my package on had stopped to help a truck that had slipped into the ditch. That caused the truck that had my package on to be severely delayed. The weather was CAVOK and NO PRECIP on roadways.
See how they will manipulate this "weather delay" to keep the customer in the dark and devoid of any compensatory payments?
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