rolling thunder

The FCIF about the new ACP's seem to indicate that our ACP is determined by our last name. Is this Right?

fedupbusdriver

Yep. It's a new idea from the big "O".

hamfisted

Divided the pilots up by alphabet and assigned each group to an ACP. Still waiting for the cubicle commandos to communicate the change to the crew force. Guess if you want to work for the SCP you have to come from the schoolhouse. Nuthin like understanding intimately what it's like to fly the line full time when you are considering disciplinary steps against a pilot............

fedupbusdriver

Or from the Union

subicpilot

Your statement makes it seem like you think that guys who come from the schoolhouse haven't flown the line or don't have an intimate understanding of line flying. Personally, I flew the line for 10 years before taking a job as a flex. Getting hired for any position in management or training puts the individual through a thorough screening process, during which any number of things, including just one negative input from another manager or LCA, can preclude being hired. Knowing this, it might make it a bit clearer why pilots who are already LCA/Flex instructors are sometimes more easily placed in management jobs. Not to mention the obvious fact that guys who are willing to do the extra work and have proven themselves over time to be strong performers in the training arena make them obvious choices over an unknown entity (who might be equally qualified, BTW.)

Put yourself in SJ's shoes and decide for yourself who you'd hire...a guy you had worked with who had an established reputation; who had been endorsed by guys you knew and respected, or an unknown line pilot whom you had never heard anything about.

MD11Fr8Dog

The ABCs of ACPs! I didn't get one, yet!

MEMA300

Lets help the job security of flight managers. Lets all start changing our names.

subicpilot

Not sure who you are, MEMA300, but it's obvious you know me. In any case, I agree with you that those in management or training who are there forever are prone to losing touch with reality, but still disagree with "hamfisted" insinuating that those in training or management positions do not have intimate knowledge of line flying.
His references were:

1. That you have to come from the schoolhouse to work for the SCP, and;

2. "Nuthin like understanding intimately what it's like to fly the line full time when you are considering disciplinary steps against a pilot............"

That sarcasm was read loud and clear and I think it's (expletive deleted at moderators request). He's implying that those who reach positions of responsibility in training or management don't have an intimate understanding of line flying...although I can't deny that there are some who fit that mold...And I understand your point about the incestuous nature of management. I don't agree with it, but I understand why it is. That is what I was discussing here.

Wild Bill

Word during my CMV1 from my current ACP is that this alphabetic move is to create continuity so that you don't change ACPs everytime you change planes or seats.

NoHaz

What if you change your name?