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Old 11-28-2007, 11:08 AM
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Has anyone heard anything about new 777 pay rates yet? Are we negotiating new rates? I'm sure the company isn't going to just scratch out A-380 and write in 777 in the CBA. I think this will be the next big issue we will face. As we approach our next new posting, the 777 will probably be on it. I hope we have a pay rate in place that will attract the senior pilots on the list....or I guess we could just add the 777 to the wide-body pay rate list and have DW and his MEC convince us that it's a good deal some how. Or, maybe we'll just have a Boeing pay rate! yea, that's the ticket. 777, 757 and 727.
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All I'll say is, and it's been said before, anyone who has the 777 in their standing bid without the pay being resolved is doing a disservice to the negotiating committee and the entire pilot group!

Don't bid it until they pay us the deserved rate for it!!!
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Old 11-28-2007, 03:12 PM
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Perhaps...based on another thread's DW comments, we should say: "Who cares, I'll never be senior enough to hold it anyway..."

However...it IS in all our interests to get a solid rate for the thing. Some conspriracy theorists have said maybe the NC rolled over and gave milk on the FDAs so the company would pay the 380 rates. BC himself said the company had refered to the 777 as a replacement for the 380, therefore the rate should apply.
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Old 11-28-2007, 05:43 PM
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Come on Albie, that is just more evidence of how far out of touch BC has become. There is no way the company will just pen and ink the pay rate, we will pay dearly for any increase in our top pay rate.
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Old 11-28-2007, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Piloto Noche
Has anyone heard anything about new 777 pay rates yet? Are we negotiating new rates?
Some would suggest they were negotiated last spring and we voted on them in August....
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Old 11-28-2007, 09:16 PM
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If you do a search about this here on APC you'll see that I've been barking up this tree for months. A resolution was presented, but not passed, many months ago at an LEC 79 (Anchortown) meeting.

We need to push the MEC into this one. Without member passed resolutions to force the issue, we may not see a member ratified agreement.

I, for one, am sick of getting told what I get without my input.
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Old 11-28-2007, 09:52 PM
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The 777 pay rates are the same as the A-380 rates which falls under the Ultra Long Range category. I thought this was already a dead issue, where has everyone been?
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Originally Posted by PurpleTail
The 777 pay rates are the same as the A-380 rates which falls under the Ultra Long Range category. I thought this was already a dead issue, where has everyone been?
So where is the side letter?

For what it's worth, I'm sure it's being worked on if it isn't finalized yet. You can bet this is considered a "cornerstone" issue.
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Originally Posted by Gunter
You can bet this is considered a "cornerstone" issue.
For BC and DW ... they are both senior enough to hold the 777. I'll bet they try hard to get A380 pay for THEMSELVES!
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