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11-29-2007, 09:19 PM
#32
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Joined APC: Oct 2005
Position: Brown
Posts: 1,126
Let me begin by qualifying my post. I have only ever worked for one airline (UPS) after coming from the USAF. I did an immense amount of research when completing an MBA on the airlines. I came to my own conclusions regarding the airline industry independent from the paradigm that many folks (including those at UPS) have of the eliteness of flying jobs.
It was not very long ago that everyone on this board and FI.com were bemoaning the legacy carriers. Now that they are hiring everyone suddenly can see the upside of a career there. I coorelate the eliteness or desirability of working at a carrier directly with the certainty that said carrier will deposit my paycheck from now until I retire.
Being ANC based for UPS is still a no brainer decision over working for any passenger airline. There are plenty of other factors that I can understand that would influence Razor's decision. But assuming that he has a clean slate and has no strings attaching him to ATL I respectfully think that he'd be nuts to pass on UPS regardless of when the time comes.
UPS is extremely arrogant in their hiring practices. They think they are better than anything else out there and that applicants should feel priviliged to pay their own way to SDF to interview and then sit and wait in a ridiculous pool. The hiring practices of UPS are embarassing, but the fact is is that HR knows this is the plumb job out there and they are right.
Good luck Razor. I hope you get the option of choosing your job. I was in the same position nearly 3 years ago with SWA and UPS. Based on what I know of your stated background your working at UPS will seem like a vacation after what you are used to. Again, best of luck to you and post an update if/when you decide to start class at UPS.
It was not very long ago that everyone on this board and FI.com were bemoaning the legacy carriers. Now that they are hiring everyone suddenly can see the upside of a career there. I coorelate the eliteness or desirability of working at a carrier directly with the certainty that said carrier will deposit my paycheck from now until I retire.
Being ANC based for UPS is still a no brainer decision over working for any passenger airline. There are plenty of other factors that I can understand that would influence Razor's decision. But assuming that he has a clean slate and has no strings attaching him to ATL I respectfully think that he'd be nuts to pass on UPS regardless of when the time comes.
UPS is extremely arrogant in their hiring practices. They think they are better than anything else out there and that applicants should feel priviliged to pay their own way to SDF to interview and then sit and wait in a ridiculous pool. The hiring practices of UPS are embarassing, but the fact is is that HR knows this is the plumb job out there and they are right.
Good luck Razor. I hope you get the option of choosing your job. I was in the same position nearly 3 years ago with SWA and UPS. Based on what I know of your stated background your working at UPS will seem like a vacation after what you are used to. Again, best of luck to you and post an update if/when you decide to start class at UPS.
11-29-2007, 11:28 PM
#33
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Joined APC: Nov 2006
Position: On Food Stamps
Posts: 937
Razor,
Don't worry too much about the forum here! Having just been where you are I know how tough all this really is. Good luck at Delta, I have two good buddies that just got hired there and they love it! God bless.
Don't worry too much about the forum here! Having just been where you are I know how tough all this really is. Good luck at Delta, I have two good buddies that just got hired there and they love it! God bless.
12-14-2007, 09:32 AM
#36
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2006
Position: DC-8 756/767
Posts: 1,144
Long term: Loss of seniority in seat which equals more crappy schedules, upgrade, maybe in 15 or so years. Loss of 5 years of Captain pay, but wait, I can now make that up by working until 65, then I can die a few short years later. No hiring now for a while, hopefully no furloughs. Would not put it past UPS. If you are relativley junior like me, I see no positive results of raising the retirement age.
12-14-2007, 10:23 AM
#37
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Joined APC: Jul 2006
Position: Doggie
Posts: 2,382
It has POSITIVELY raised the stress level and nerves in our household ...
I have begun to kiss the lower 48 good-bye, along with the dog, the wife and the cat ... in that order.
Later, Brown CC
12-14-2007, 12:05 PM
#39
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Joined APC: Jul 2006
Position: Doggie
Posts: 2,382
Seriously though, I wouldn't mind to add that rating to my tickets. I had to take the written just to get the interview. Now I know why ...
Loss of pay riding in the backseat should outweigh the myrad of problems created by commutting to ANC ... IMHO.
Later, Brown CC
P.S. .... approx $34/hour difference from FO to SO in 2nd year .... HmmmMMMHHMMM ...
Last edited by CactusCrew; 12-14-2007 at 12:43 PM.
12-14-2007, 12:30 PM
#40
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2007
Posts: 511
That would work just fine for me ... "deadheading to your next preflight"
Seriously though, I wouldn't mind to add that rating to my tickets. I had to take the written just to get the interview. Now I know why ...
Loss of pay riding in the backseat should outweigh the myrad of problems created by commutting to ANC ... IMHO.
Later, Brown CC
Seriously though, I wouldn't mind to add that rating to my tickets. I had to take the written just to get the interview. Now I know why ...
Loss of pay riding in the backseat should outweigh the myrad of problems created by commutting to ANC ... IMHO.
Later, Brown CC
I thought there had to be a vacancy for a back seater to come to the front...since most of the vacancies are ANC wont they get that??...that seems to me the only option, unless you want to stay in current possition.
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