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Old 12-09-2007, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by ⌐ AV8OR WANNABE
I look at it as him doing a bunch of drills all at once and now for six months or so he won't be required to drill at all; so in a way scheduling-wise it's a wash - except his pay during the time that is...
I don't know what or where he flies but could you get me a job there? That's not how it works in my squadron!
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Old 12-09-2007, 09:59 AM
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Why not just fly half your guarantee, get credit for a good month, and be able to do more ANG then???
Probably unit/tasking dependant, but I did this for a couple years with great success at FDX. We were fat on the S/O seat with a hiring freeze, so I looked at it as win/win/win. I got to make some money and keep flying fighters--which I enjoyed. The company got me for 1/2 or less pay every month...saving them coin. And the the dudes at the company got to have a few more trips in open time. Probably the only guys who lose where the MEM reserve sitters who weren't flying much anyway having to go to work a few extra times a month. However--the cost to the company was zero as they were already paid for those days.

I liked this option for a couple other reasons too--I got to stay current in my 727 job and not have to go back to training, and I also kept myself "off the radar" as far as needing a lot of mil leave. I was ready to use the mil leave card if required, but try to leave that gun in the holster as much as possible. And--yeah its corny--I sort of dug doing both jobs.

Good luck in any case. Year one pay only lasts a year...it DOES get better...
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Old 12-09-2007, 05:56 PM
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Good point! M, congrats on the kid!
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Old 12-09-2007, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ⌐ AV8OR WANNABE
To my surprise (and disbelief) I just heard ONT might see some shrinking, anyone else heard that rumor? It doesn't make sense to me and personally I don't believe it but wasn’t there some kind of 'big fish' meeting in ONT in the last week or so? I hope this rumor is not true, anyone?
Oh Lord! I hope not!
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Old 12-09-2007, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by bifff15
I think that every day you drop mil on extends your probation accordingly. I haven't read the contract on it but that's how it was explained to me. Anyone have the "in the know scoop"?
I heard it does extend your probation but doesn't affect your longevity. You will still get your raise when you would normally....you're just still technically on probation. That's how I understand it.
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Old 12-09-2007, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by floater
If UPS doesn't want folks doing that then they should pay more during first year pay.

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Or not hire military folks. (Not saying that's my opinion, I'm just saying they should know this type of stuff will occur....duh)
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Old 12-09-2007, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Archie Bunker
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I'm not privy to the company's opinion on this whole matter, but IMHO I'm sure they aren't real happy when a new-hire takes off for 6 months of military duty. This new-hire probably just finished training, and completed his consolidation. To the company, he's another trained and current pilot that they can't use on the line. He's also a pilot that will require another training event to become current when he returns to UPS.

I'm sure the company understands that our pilots have reserve/guard obligations (weekends/annual 2 week drill, etc), but they probably weren't banking on someone being gone for months at a time....especially when that pilot just joined the company. Just my humble opinion on how the company views this matter.


They should make the first year pay liveable.....problem (most likely) solved.
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Old 12-09-2007, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Slice
I don't know what or where he flies but could you get me a job there? ...
I tried, they said you were overqualified?
Like I said, I don't know enough about this subject, however I definitely understand how people are looking for ways to boost their year 1 income...
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The way I read it is you need to make 1/2 the guarentee to progress a month on probation- 37.5 hours, then you have 2 periods to make up time dropped for mil. You can figure on your own how many out and backs from ANC-PacRim that takes. If you drop 6 mos of mil leave you come back as noncurrent, on second year pay, but a probie for 6 more months. Not a good precedent to set to get your buds hired later. Hoping to see more trip trading for less commuting myself.
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Old 12-09-2007, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Freightpuppy
Or not hire military folks. (Not saying that's my opinion, I'm just saying they should know this type of stuff will occur....duh)
What?! and not give back to the very people who defend our country from the Axis of Evil?

hahahahah

Seriously, I agree with you. From the company's stand point, it doesn't make sense (to hire them, train them, then they disappear for a year), does it?
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