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Old 11-11-2007, 07:06 AM
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Thank goodness we rushed into this as "all this will be decided by Memorial Day". They didn't say what year though. (Sarcasm!!!)
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Old 11-11-2007, 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Falconjet
....And if anything can derail the change to 65, it is those very lawsuits. Congress will just leave it alone if they can't assure everyone that they will be protected from lawsuits by those that miss the deadline....
It could be that the trial lawyers have more clout with the Dems than ALPA....
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Old 11-11-2007, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Falconjet
....How can you sue companies and unions for obeying the law? Age 60 was a law, ALPA didn't write, neither did the airlines. What is the basis for any lawsuit?
Re-read the excerpt above from the ADEA. I think one could argue against ALPA with that as a basis. ALPA did come on board after the fact, but possibly too little, too late....
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Old 11-11-2007, 07:38 AM
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Roberto:

The threads that you APAAD guys are hanging your hats on are laughable.

Good luck with all of that.

Memorial Day. oops.

And the ALPA point man on Age 60: September 30th. Yeah, of this year. oops again.

These APAAD dudes really know what is going on.

Not.
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Old 11-11-2007, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by iarapilot
Actually, the SFS rep votes the way he feels is right, and his folks usually agree because they are mostly on the same wavelength.
No argument; they are on the same wavelength because there is agreement on the block issues. The same can not be said of the block 2 voter helping to elect the block 7 rep. Take age 60 or the loa any doubts that a survey of blocks 2 and 7 would differ sharply?
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Old 11-11-2007, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by nightfreight
Albie,

I sure hope you win the block rep position. You obviously know that everything that you have posted has been read by most of the folks at the MEC. I don't think you will get a warm reception and it might be uncomfortable for you, but I think you know this already. Good for you dude...... Changes are in order there and I am glad we will have someone that will actually represent our interests, not hook up their buds. Good luck..... And, thanks for stepping up the plate!!!!
I think there are a couple more who are already there who have similar thoughts but feel like its futile to put up a fight right now. Maybe, maybe not.

As FecAV8r said when he left flight management--when the worst thing that happens if you quit is you return to (IHMO) one of the coolest jobs in the world you ain't doing bad. I have no idea why some union guys haven't stepped down earlier...I guess its either a very cozy gig or they honestly feel like they are doing the very best for the crew force. I would have quit before I signed an LOA that allowed involuntary separations from family for 3 months (or more if one bid period included a 5 week bid month). That's such a huge departure from ANY work rules we have ever had here--and nobody batted an eye.
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Old 11-11-2007, 09:23 AM
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--and nobody batted an eye.
That is saying it mildly. Hard to be civil and write how they fronted for the POS. So lets say they were proactive vice the nuetral that your quote could imply.
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Old 11-11-2007, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by FreightDawgyDog
"There are numerous lawsuits in play at this time."

I just hope those of us under 55 still have the chance that they do to retire at 60 with a full pension. In the meantime I'll just continue to watch them all meet during hub turns, their 4th stripe covered in electrical tape, talking about when Age 60 will change and sharing techniques on how best to stir the coffee for the Capt and F/O. Different strokes indeed...
The only way we'll be able to retire at 60 is if the COMPANY decides it's in their best financial interests to allow us to do so. Can you imagine how the negotiations would go on that one?

US: We want to retire at 60.
FDX: Your union and MEC chair said otherwise. Moving on...
US: Ok.
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Old 11-11-2007, 04:33 PM
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We need stability in our offices. At the same time, I've said publically we are WAY beyond stable now, and instead seem to have an elite professional cadre of union folks who do all they can to promote their own agendas, stifle outside input, and keep the doors closed as much as possible.

Stability means getting rid of ALPA and their national agenda which is diametrically opposed to the vast majority of FDX pilots! What good would it do for a motivated guy like Albief15 to go knock heads with ALPA national? And then, as Albief15 says, quit when he gets nowhere with ALPA? LOA, Age 60, Pay For Training, partying with our money...When is enough enough?
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Originally Posted by PicklePausePull
...Stability means getting rid of ALPA and their national agenda which is diametrically opposed to the vast majority of FDX pilots! What good would it do for a motivated guy like Albief15 to go knock heads with ALPA national? And then, as Albief15 says, quit when he gets nowhere with ALPA? LOA, Age 60, Pay For Training, partying with our money...When is enough enough?
PPP,

I'm with you on how crappy the LOA is. However, I, and the vast majority of FDX pilots are diametrically opposed to your idea of getting rid of ALPA.

Does that mean we should get rid of you?

Lets not try and reinvent the wheel, again. Lets just change the tires!!
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