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Old 11-10-2007, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by MaydayMark
MD-11 lines look much tougher ... SIG warned that it was coming
MD-11 lines are terrible, especially domestic
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Old 11-10-2007, 12:03 PM
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Are the schedules maybe being optimized so that the HKG/CDG lines look nice in comparison? That way, you guys would REALLY consider bidding the FDA's?
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Old 11-10-2007, 01:25 PM
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We must have done something very bad.

What did we do?
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Old 11-10-2007, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Micro
"One of our goals in Negotiations was to eliminate the need for the SIG and PSIT by achieving ironclad scheduling rules. About halfway through the process (when our first Mediator told us to give it up) we knew we would not achieve that goal. We then set about the task of strengthening the ability of the SIG to dispute and otherwise influence bad pairings for the better. We had some minor successes in that area, but in the final analysis we all knew that in the scheduling arena there is no justice—just us!"


A quote from BC!! The NC gave up on one of our MAJOR "pillars". Now we are going to have to live with the results of that decision. All of our so called "gains" in this contract are going to be negated by the companies cranking up of the optimizer. Any increase in monies we thought we gained are going to be more than covered by increased productivity by the company because the NC didn't protect us with better work rules.
That just about hits the nail on the head. Again, while we point fingers at each other about the individual trees that are disputed pairings, we have allowed the forrest to burn down around us. Our own faults. None of us is as dumb as all of us! Next time around, lets put our pride aside. Let professional negotiators negotiate and let pilots fly airplanes. Sorry I'm venting.
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Old 11-10-2007, 02:26 PM
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We must have done something very bad.

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We did nothing!! We didn't even buy hats.
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Old 11-10-2007, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by onetime
None of us is as dumb as all of us! Next time around, lets put our pride aside. Let professional negotiators negotiate and let pilots fly airplanes.
Shack.....
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Old 11-10-2007, 03:41 PM
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Hey, I bought a hat!

A jacket too, just so I could look like a "real" airline pilot.
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