Accepted Fares
10-12-2007, 05:36 PM
#21
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This is the "guilty until proven innocent" scenario. There should be plenty of examples in the company expense report database. Why should we have to provide examples of what the company already knows? I've had my accepted fares adjusted upward many times over the past several years due to Corp. Travel being unable to attain a ticket at the published fare. However I don't know how to retrieve that data. If someone can tell me how I will gladly provide that data.
10-12-2007, 08:55 PM
#23
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Why should we have to provide examples of what the company already knows? I've had my accepted fares adjusted upward many times over the past several years due to Corp. Travel being unable to attain a ticket at the published fare. However I don't know how to retrieve that data. If someone can tell me how I will gladly provide that data.
Your old expense reports should show what was allowed. If you use fastbid, I think you can pull the accepted fares for that month out of old bidpack files. I can't speak to any of this from personal experience, since I seldom deviate (aside from an occassional company jumpseat).
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- 'Frater
10-13-2007, 06:35 AM
#24
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Because you (we) want the present situation changed and the company doesn't. Like it or not, the company isn't going to dig out the data to support your point over theirs.
Your old expense reports should show what was allowed. If you use fastbid, I think you can pull the accepted fares for that month out of old bidpack files. I can't speak to any of this from personal experience, since I seldom deviate (aside from an occassional company jumpseat).
Regards,
- 'Frater
Your old expense reports should show what was allowed. If you use fastbid, I think you can pull the accepted fares for that month out of old bidpack files. I can't speak to any of this from personal experience, since I seldom deviate (aside from an occassional company jumpseat).
Regards,
- 'Frater
I have a trip next monday where the accepted fare is $360 but the company bought tickets says $630. I can't deviate for less than $630. Unless the schedulers revise the trip I will drop it.
10-13-2007, 10:25 AM
#25
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The company is saving many thousands of dollars a month on this change, and they'll happily continue to do so until forced to change by an arbitrator. They're not going to help the arbitrator decide against them, so those guys who previously DID get the higher fare will have to dig that data out and give it to ALPA, otherwise the company will shrug it's shoulders and the arbitrator will be left to find "No such prior practice existed".
10-13-2007, 03:46 PM
#27
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Didn't say that either. I didn't comment one way or the other about the timing of the fight, just what must be done to fight it now. But since you seem to insist on making that a topic, my only comment would be that it doesn't matter... NOW. I generally find that playing coulda, woulda, shoulda is a waste of time.
10-13-2007, 04:28 PM
#28
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You are absolutely correct, which is why I was so ****ed with the lack of a serious response from my block rep when I wrote him about this subject almost a year ago.
If something about my question offended you my apologies. Here let me repeat it to see if I can find the offense this time.
Are you saying it would have been easier to fight when the company first changed the policy? Who would have thought it. Maybe the enforcement guys shouldn't have blown people off for the first year.
Nope, couldn't find it. Apology withdrawn.
If something about my question offended you my apologies. Here let me repeat it to see if I can find the offense this time.
Are you saying it would have been easier to fight when the company first changed the policy? Who would have thought it. Maybe the enforcement guys shouldn't have blown people off for the first year.
Nope, couldn't find it. Apology withdrawn.
10-15-2007, 08:28 PM
#30
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When doing your expense report, your scheduled tickets shows up under the heading of Travel Bank. At the left of every ticket is a hyperlink "discr". Click on that. That brings up a separate window to fix the price of the SCHEDULED DH. There is a dropdown box that you can click on listing several reasons why you want the price changed, including ADJUST SCHEDULED FARE AMOUNT. Make sure that is highlighted and fill in the new price of the ticket above that where it says DISCREPENCY FARE.
This isnt even a change. You could do it under the old/new electronic expense report system.
Very easy to do and you dont have to call any ACPs or even the expense report people. I"m not exactly sure what you guys are all worked up about.
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