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Old 10-04-2007, 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by FDXLAG
I heard the bid will be out shortly after we approve the loa.
Actually, it's coming out whether we approve the LOA or not. Ummm .....ok.
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Old 10-04-2007, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by NoHaz
back to the thread... bid?
Just got back from the MD training building....PD (Basic Indoc) said bid will be out tomorrow. We'll see.
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Old 10-05-2007, 02:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Huck
My lowest point was when the captain (a well-known guy) walked into the cockpit when I'd been here two months and said, "So... how many d!cks did your wife have to suck to get you this job?" I was so stunned I just said, "What?" So he slowed down and said, "How - many - d!cks - did - your - wife - have - to - suck -(etc....)"
In my first year here, I've come to the conclusion that there are lots of guys here that couldn't get hired at the major pax airlines because of their previous reputations and current personalities. So they got hired here. The majors went down the crapper on 9/11 and now these j-o's feel like they're King Sh!t. Good on 'em. Congratulations. I wish I had your foresight.

I've found the "stupid look" works better than any comeback you could possibly come up with. Plus, I'm not that quick with the humor. Just give the a-hole the "look". He'll get it, he's seen it before. A guy like that, he's probably an alcoholic multiple divorcee with a crackhead daughter making porn movies and a son with a purple mohawk and a nose ring.

I think I know the dude you're talking about. Schoolhouse guy? He asked a new-hire classmate of mine who has a wife (pilot) at FedEx if she was fat and ugly like all the other female pilots here. He handled it really well and just did his job. Luckily, jerks like this are <1%.

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Old 10-05-2007, 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by FredEx
In my first year here, I've come to the conclusion that there are lots of guys here that couldn't get hired at the major pax airlines because of their previous reputations and current personalities....................................

.............................. Luckily, jerks like this are <1%.
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Sorry to hear you have to fly with a lot of losers. Maybe in the future the real airlines will seem more appealing and you can jump ship to where there standards are closer to your own. In the mean time, welcome aboard!
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Old 10-05-2007, 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by FDXLAG

I heard the bid will be out shortly after we approve the loa.
Can I still change my vote?
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Old 10-05-2007, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Huck
I'm glad you had a positive experience on the panel. To me, it was the most demeaning, frustrating and uncomfortable time in a 21-year flying career. I would have done anything - well, virtually anything - to get off it. CDG on F/O pay? You bet. I'd have made it work.

My lowest point was when the captain (a well-known guy) walked into the cockpit when I'd been here two months and said, "So... how many d!cks did your wife have to suck to get you this job?" I was so stunned I just said, "What?" So he slowed down and said, "How - many - d!cks - did - your - wife - have - to - suck - (etc....)"

Now, I KNOW that all you guys here at APC would never treat a newbie flight engineer that way. But the psychos are out there, and I seemed to get all of them my probationary year. I'd have flown a Caravan out of CDG to get out of that seat.

Or maybe it was just the "greed or the thrill...."
The Stanford prison experiment was ostensibly a psychological study of human responses to captivity and its behavioral effects on both authorities and inmates in prison. It was conducted in 1971 by a team of researchers led by Philip Zimbardo of Stanford University. Undergraduate volunteers played the roles of both guards and prisoners living in a mock prison in the basement of the Stanford psychology building.
Prisoners and guards rapidly adapted to their roles, stepping beyond the boundaries of what had been predicted and leading to dangerous and psychologically damaging situations. One-third of the guards were judged to have exhibited "genuine" sadistic tendencies, while many prisoners were emotionally traumatized and two had to be removed from the experiment early.



I wonder how some of our Captains would have done as prison guards?

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Old 10-06-2007, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by dckozak
Sorry to hear you have to fly with a lot of losers. Maybe in the future the real airlines will seem more appealing and you can jump ship to where there standards are closer to your own. In the mean time, welcome aboard!
perfect example...........
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Old 10-06-2007, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by FredEx
In my first year here, I've come to the conclusion that there are lots of guys here that couldn't get hired at the major pax airlines because of their previous reputations and current personalities. So they got hired here. The majors went down the crapper on 9/11 and now these j-o's feel like they're King Sh!t. Good on 'em. Congratulations. I wish I had your foresight...

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I was wondering why I got hired here.

After 20 years here, I've come to the conclusion that we still seem to hire a few douchebags. Problem is, they'll probably recommend their douchebag friends.

Trust me...The "Major Pax" carriers have guys that shouldn't have been hired anywhere, due to their reputations and personalities. I've been there and experienced them.

We probably have about the same percentage. Don't be one.
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Old 10-06-2007, 04:27 PM
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The number of buttheads at any one airline is a constant. The percentage varys slightly amoung airlines. The sad fact is that when a really jerk capt retires, a nasty former F/O who has been hiding in the closet swiftly jumps out and takes his/her place.
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