Why Brown managers won't unionize

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03-05-2009, 06:49 PM

#111

brown snowman

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Originally Posted by 1800 RVR

I couldn't tell you for sure. All I know is that they have been complaining in confidence that a 2nd year line FO makes much more that they do. For all I know they could be yanking my chain.

Third year manager, hired same time I was told me the other day
he was making 200k plus stock and just checked out in the
left seat of the -400.
For what it's worth.

03-05-2009, 07:24 PM

#112

FR8K9

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Everybody knows that the managers a paid very well. Some of them work for every penny too. Some...not so much! I would be worried if I were those guys.

03-06-2009, 09:39 AM

#113

1800 RVR

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Originally Posted by brown snowman

Third year manager, hired same time I was told me the other day
he was making 200k plus stock and just checked out in the
left seat of the -400.
For what it's worth.

Yes, once they are moved into the left seat, the salary goes up considerably. What I was referring to was the ones that are not hired straight into the left seat. It seemed not to take too long for those to get "upgraded" fairly quick.

03-06-2009, 11:04 AM

#114

⌐ AV8OR WANNABE

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Originally Posted by 1800 RVR

...What I was referring to was the ones that are not hired straight into the left seat. It seemed not to take too long for those to get "upgraded" fairly quick.

Interesting, have never met one who was not hired straight into the left seat... My class had 6 and all were hired as captains...

03-06-2009, 11:33 AM

#115

1800 RVR

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Originally Posted by ⌐ AV8OR WANNABE

Interesting, have never met one who was not hired straight into the left seat... My class had 6 and all were hired as captains...

In my tenure on the -8, I know of 2 recent hires that both were hired as DC8 FE managers. Now, in the fairness of full disclosure, it only took them a bit over 1 year to be promoted to CA. But, at the time, in talking to them, they were never told when they would upgrade. Both were fairly agitated at this. Now, when they did upgrade, their tones changed considerably.

Last edited by 1800 RVR; 03-06-2009 at 11:34 AM. Reason: spelling

03-28-2010, 01:48 PM

#116

Capt TedStriker

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Bump

FQS's.... reach out to IPA line guys and get your questions answered.
We are operating above board here. This a great chance to control the inevitable.

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04-27-2010, 10:12 PM

#117

GUMBIE

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Originally Posted by Capt TedStriker

Bump

FQS's.... reach out to IPA line guys and get your questions answered.
We are operating above board here. This a great chance to control the inevitable.

UPS Flight Qualified Supervisors

We are joining ALPA...Instead of a Airline within an Airline, it's going to be a Union within a Union!