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08-16-2007, 10:33 PM
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4.
I understand and agree that the CDG FDA and/or the HKG FDA shall be a temporary assignment expected to last at least two (2) years. At the conclusion of this assignment, I will be able to exercise my rights under the collective bargaining agreement between ALPA and Federal Express to be returned or reassigned to another base or domicile within the Federal Express flight operations system.
Just my opinion, but it appears that 2 yrs is a min, even for a new hire.
I understand and agree that the CDG FDA and/or the HKG FDA shall be a temporary assignment expected to last at least two (2) years. At the conclusion of this assignment, I will be able to exercise my rights under the collective bargaining agreement between ALPA and Federal Express to be returned or reassigned to another base or domicile within the Federal Express flight operations system.
Just my opinion, but it appears that 2 yrs is a min, even for a new hire.
I suppose we'll see some interesting challenge scenarios along the way.
08-16-2007, 11:12 PM
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Wow, this afternoon I thought there really was a relatively easy way out of the FDA's, but the above language could probably be interpreted in several different ways.
In any event, I'm looking forward to you guys hiring again... and thinking that two years abroad, and hopefully not much longer than that, might be a nice adventure.
In any event, I'm looking forward to you guys hiring again... and thinking that two years abroad, and hopefully not much longer than that, might be a nice adventure.
08-17-2007, 06:49 AM
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It's a sad state of affairs. A year ago FedEx guys were still teasing UPSers about the low first year salary at Brown. We will soon be able to say our FDA newhires are equal to UPS poorly paid newhires.
....At least we have that going for us.
....At least we have that going for us.
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08-17-2007, 11:26 AM
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"ii. If a pilot fails to complete his commitment period without a release from the V.P., he shall be obligated to repay his seed money and any money paid by the Company for storage."
How can one fail to complete the commitment period WITHOUT a realease from the VP??
How can one fail to complete the commitment period WITHOUT a realease from the VP??
08-18-2007, 07:51 AM
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I am not a lawyer, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night....
I believe the above means if you get a release from the VP you can pass go and collect $200 WITHOUT the length of stay required in the contract/LOA. Good luck getting that release...
08-18-2007, 08:27 AM
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IMHO, and realistically like JetJoc posted earlier, you could be looking at 3-5 yrs in an FDA to get back to the "Land of Plenty."
2 yrs FDA -- and when mgmnt deems your "boots on the ground" clock to start running. It could be assignment date (day you show up and activated on the bidding list) or it could be at the end of consolidation. Anybody know?
Follow on bid -- you could get lucky and have a bid during your 2/3 yr FDA and have training/transfer waived until your return to the States. I think that's the way it SHOULD work but ..... who knows. You could also have to wait until after your FDA contract has expired before you can bid. (Does anybody know this one?) And if that's the case, one would have to wait until the next bid is posted, and as we've seen around these parts, a system bid is not a regular occurence.
Training -- then you would have to wait for training or just the transfer letter. IMHO, I doubt the nice folks in flt mgmnt are going to jump up and go looking for a pen to immediately to put a returning FDA guy on the transfer letter until his scheduled replacement is full up in theatre, boots on the ground, etc....
Just IMHO, I think an 2 yr FDA'er is realistically looking at 3 yrs boots on the ground, possibly as many as 5 yrs IF a) you're junior (read new hire), AND b) you want to come back as a MEM/LAX WB FO and have to accomplish training.
Stuff to think about definitely and I would certainly appreciate any insights anyone else can offer.
2 yrs FDA -- and when mgmnt deems your "boots on the ground" clock to start running. It could be assignment date (day you show up and activated on the bidding list) or it could be at the end of consolidation. Anybody know?
Follow on bid -- you could get lucky and have a bid during your 2/3 yr FDA and have training/transfer waived until your return to the States. I think that's the way it SHOULD work but ..... who knows. You could also have to wait until after your FDA contract has expired before you can bid. (Does anybody know this one?) And if that's the case, one would have to wait until the next bid is posted, and as we've seen around these parts, a system bid is not a regular occurence.
Training -- then you would have to wait for training or just the transfer letter. IMHO, I doubt the nice folks in flt mgmnt are going to jump up and go looking for a pen to immediately to put a returning FDA guy on the transfer letter until his scheduled replacement is full up in theatre, boots on the ground, etc....
Just IMHO, I think an 2 yr FDA'er is realistically looking at 3 yrs boots on the ground, possibly as many as 5 yrs IF a) you're junior (read new hire), AND b) you want to come back as a MEM/LAX WB FO and have to accomplish training.
Stuff to think about definitely and I would certainly appreciate any insights anyone else can offer.
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