MaxKts

If that is your reason for voting yes it will accomplish nothing!!!!

BC brought this on himself with "If you don't like it don"t bid it" and in front of company reps "Well I don't see a problem, that is what I pay to send my kids to school". Comments like that are indefensible!

FDXLAG

Nope. But it aint week on week off.

But I have figured out what we are going to do on the 7th day. It seems it is a custom in some Asian countries to work a half day on Saturday for free. This is especially true for the workers without a inique skill set. I think that is what JL was hinting at.

iarapilot

Hey, cut YUM some slack. I think he is badmouthing BC because as far as negotiations go, he didnt do a good job. That of course depends on your view of the LOA. And, I tend think that all but 1 on the MEC did a fantastic disservice to us on this POS. Come on.....read it and look what we gave up! We should not have given a darn thing up!

FR8Hauler

Lighten up Francis, it was a joke. I did not say I like it but I am not convinced they are wrong either.

MrSuupafly

Why do people keep thinking there are gains in this LOA? Basically, you get a choice.

1. You take the current section 6.
2. You take the enhanced option, get $2700 a month housing allowance and
give up a lot of your section 6 benefits, spend time gambling with
your life on a chinese highway and possibly getting shipped off against
your will.

Don't give me that scope improvement crap either. I have read it and don't see any improvement. Am I missing something?

Underdog

I for one, will not bid it. The rest of the SFS folks, I cannot speak for. STV is but one small distaste of this LOA. I cannot believe so much emphasis is placed on STV. The signing of a contract, to distance ourselves from recent changes in french laws, appears to be enormous. The $20,000 I keep in my income(foreign tax exclusion-the reason I bid SFS) is huge to me. Keep in mind, everyone who bids the FDA would qualify for that after one year, without tax equalization! The company should have to pay foreign taxes, but, if they want to give substandard package, how about allowing us to keep exclusion and foreign tax break. Then a pilot could afford housing with $2700. One thing for sure, if this does pass, I'm going back home to the good ol US of A, with my 79 credit hour pay for returning from FDA, under current contract. That equates to over $18,000 extra! I'm not quite sure how that's less than LOA

BrownGirls YUM

The reason I brought up BC vis a' vis the HKG vs. CAN base location is this:

BC comes to us, presents what he acknowledges is a substandard LOA. He claims they had no negotiating leverage and that's why we couldn't get anything more than what we read now.

So, with none of this leverage, he managed to "negotiate" a base move from the airport of operations, to a location over 3 hours away. Nothing else could be improved...not even no-cost items like 100-pound shipments(does he even know what they are?), but with no leverage, he got them to move the base over 3 hours away from the airport of operations.

Imagine the limited flexibility for reserves, trip building, etc. that results from such a move. And we did this with "no negotiating leverage". Really?

I'm interested to know why anyone would find this plausible.

NoHaz

Easy

CAN taxes 50 % ... HKG 17% ...which would you agree to if you had to pay for equalization?

BrownGirls YUM

Agree to?

More like: "which would I include in my one-time good deal offer to those with no leverage?"

iarapilot

I am amazed at how many guys are falling a@# over tea kettle for Union Busting 101



I too am amazed. The fear that is expressed on this forum is amazing, but understandable.

You guys that are worried about a negative outcome if this LOA is voted down need to look at a little history, and not only at FedEx or our industry. This is textbook union busting. I could go on but..

Be prepared for some more communication from the company, and maybe our MEC, that will be aimed at swaying your vote in their favor.

If that happens, remember that is a diversion, most likely. Look at what is said factually, not emotionally.

Remember also that if looks, walks, and quacks......it probably is.