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07-24-2007, 10:10 PM
#31
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AF "other" time
I did include Other time as a Pilot(MP, IP, EP) in PIC and SIC. As the AC I logged Other time in the aircraft forms but I was still "solely responsible" for the aircraft which should be all PIC. There's a little more to calculating PIC and SIC but that seems to be the way that most ppl I've talked to have included Other time into PIC and SIC.
07-25-2007, 03:50 AM
#32
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Joined APC: Jun 2007
Position: Legacy FO
Posts: 4,105
AV8OR,
I ran an intercept on "a" tanker during Southern Watch and it turned out to be a KC-10 refueling another KC-10. Not something a fighter guy gets to see every day but totally cool to watch. It looks a whole lot tougher than what we go through on the boom!
Tankers refuel tankers for lots of reasons and adds to our capabilities tremendously.
Biff
I ran an intercept on "a" tanker during Southern Watch and it turned out to be a KC-10 refueling another KC-10. Not something a fighter guy gets to see every day but totally cool to watch. It looks a whole lot tougher than what we go through on the boom!
Tankers refuel tankers for lots of reasons and adds to our capabilities tremendously.
Biff
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07-27-2007, 02:22 PM
#33
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Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: 747-400 FO
Posts: 6
07-31-2007, 05:53 PM
#35
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Joined APC: Mar 2007
Position: Capt
Posts: 3,215
Hi!
I was in a "formation" (it wasn't organized-everyone just kept out of everyone else's way) of about 17 aircraft.
There were a bunch of F-117s flying home from deployment. They were assigned, either one or two each, to a KC-10. They would refuel from the KC-10s all the way home, and the KC-10s would refuel from other tankers while they escorted their baby chicks back to the states.
I was in a KC-135R, and we refueled the -10s from about S. Egypt to somewhere into the Med.
The modification of the KC-135s into the -Rs was supposed to have included refueling capabilities for ALL KC-135Rs, but it got expensive, so there was only about 15? -Rs that were converted to receive fuel.
ALL the tankers can hook up to a receiver and SUCK the fuel out, but it's a slow process.
Nowadays, the "new" -R model is old. The KC-135T now has no navigator and is all glass-down to just 3 crewmembers.
C U!
cliff
YIP
PS-In the R we could fly for 24 hours, or 12,000 miles. We also did lightweight pattern sorties (landing and takeoff practice) at about 115,000 lbs., with 90K thrust!
I was in a "formation" (it wasn't organized-everyone just kept out of everyone else's way) of about 17 aircraft.
There were a bunch of F-117s flying home from deployment. They were assigned, either one or two each, to a KC-10. They would refuel from the KC-10s all the way home, and the KC-10s would refuel from other tankers while they escorted their baby chicks back to the states.
I was in a KC-135R, and we refueled the -10s from about S. Egypt to somewhere into the Med.
The modification of the KC-135s into the -Rs was supposed to have included refueling capabilities for ALL KC-135Rs, but it got expensive, so there was only about 15? -Rs that were converted to receive fuel.
ALL the tankers can hook up to a receiver and SUCK the fuel out, but it's a slow process.
Nowadays, the "new" -R model is old. The KC-135T now has no navigator and is all glass-down to just 3 crewmembers.
C U!
cliff
YIP
PS-In the R we could fly for 24 hours, or 12,000 miles. We also did lightweight pattern sorties (landing and takeoff practice) at about 115,000 lbs., with 90K thrust!
08-01-2007, 05:42 PM
#36
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Joined APC: Jun 2007
Position: Legacy FO
Posts: 4,105
08-01-2007, 06:26 PM
#37
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Joined APC: Nov 2006
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Posts: 694
Hi!
I was in a "formation" (it wasn't organized-everyone just kept out of everyone else's way) of about 17 aircraft.
There were a bunch of F-117s flying home from deployment. They were assigned, either one or two each, to a KC-10. They would refuel from the KC-10s all the way home, and the KC-10s would refuel from other tankers while they escorted their baby chicks back to the states.
I was in a KC-135R, and we refueled the -10s from about S. Egypt to somewhere into the Med.
The modification of the KC-135s into the -Rs was supposed to have included refueling capabilities for ALL KC-135Rs, but it got expensive, so there was only about 15? -Rs that were converted to receive fuel.
ALL the tankers can hook up to a receiver and SUCK the fuel out, but it's a slow process.
Nowadays, the "new" -R model is old. The KC-135T now has no navigator and is all glass-down to just 3 crewmembers.
C U!
cliff
YIP
PS-In the R we could fly for 24 hours, or 12,000 miles. We also did lightweight pattern sorties (landing and takeoff practice) at about 115,000 lbs., with 90K thrust!
I was in a "formation" (it wasn't organized-everyone just kept out of everyone else's way) of about 17 aircraft.
There were a bunch of F-117s flying home from deployment. They were assigned, either one or two each, to a KC-10. They would refuel from the KC-10s all the way home, and the KC-10s would refuel from other tankers while they escorted their baby chicks back to the states.
I was in a KC-135R, and we refueled the -10s from about S. Egypt to somewhere into the Med.
The modification of the KC-135s into the -Rs was supposed to have included refueling capabilities for ALL KC-135Rs, but it got expensive, so there was only about 15? -Rs that were converted to receive fuel.
ALL the tankers can hook up to a receiver and SUCK the fuel out, but it's a slow process.
Nowadays, the "new" -R model is old. The KC-135T now has no navigator and is all glass-down to just 3 crewmembers.
C U!
cliff
YIP
PS-In the R we could fly for 24 hours, or 12,000 miles. We also did lightweight pattern sorties (landing and takeoff practice) at about 115,000 lbs., with 90K thrust!
We can do that in a Hornet too of course on the boom/basket of the 135R.
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