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Old 07-12-2024, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by abxflyr
OMG...I'm not here to give a history lesson about the airline industry, any specific industry segment, nor a single carriers' history. It wouldn't hurt the younger crowd to learn a little bit about where their industry came from, and just as important, where it could be going in future times. Try Google, or maybe even read a copy of Flying the Line.
You completely missed my point. You said UPS is a destination airline and ABX used to be one. There are no "destination" airlines, every single one can turn into a dud, and vice versa.
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Old 07-15-2024, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by dera
You completely missed my point. You said UPS is a destination airline and ABX used to be one. There are no "destination" airlines, every single one can turn into a dud, and vice versa.
Those are the words of an aspiring buy low and sell high optimist. You can hope that your ACMI turns to gold in one hand and... see which one fills up first. Your time is finite. Don't gamble with it.
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Old 07-15-2024, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Joachim
Those are the words of an aspiring buy low and sell high optimist. You can hope that your ACMI turns to gold in one hand and... see which one fills up first. Your time is finite. Don't gamble with it.
People who have made particular career choices based on their own individual goals and desires are not gambling. Suggesting that they have made the wrong choice because you find it inferior in some way is awfully condescending. There are plenty of people out there in this career field and others who have made choices based on money and later wished they had chosen differently.
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Old 07-15-2024, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by astray
Your contract can stagnate relative to the entire industry. See ABX and how their contract hasn't changed much since like 2018. Or Fedex, for that matter.
Recent ABX CBA years are 2009, 2021, and an out-of-the-blue extension in 2024.

Is working 7 fewer days per year as compared to the 2009 CBA is not a significant change? Is a 41% increase in retirement from the 2021 agreement to the 2024 extension - 140% if you're counting only the direct contributions excluding matches, and escalating to 200% by the end of the extension - not significant? Oh, and don't forget about the cash-over-cap provision included in that. Is the creation of premium open time in order to reduce involuntary junior manning not significant? The definition of "weekend trip" has been expanded, and weekend and holiday trips are now protected in order to address complaints about training displacements, and those who agree to be displaced from such trips are displaced into days off with the ability to bid for open time that will be paid over guarantee. Is that not a significant change? These are all changes that have occurred in 2021 and 2024.

If this is what "hasn't changed much since 2018" looks like, then I'm curious what earth-shattering changes you're expecting every time someone signs a new agreement.
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Old 07-16-2024, 12:33 PM
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How are the healthcare benefits for a family of 3 looking at ABX? Is MIA commutable as a new FO? Thanks.
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Old 07-16-2024, 02:29 PM
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are ABX schedules posted somewhere so we can jumpseat on you all?

Thanks, former ABX'er who left in late 2017 and glad I did. So much for being the Prime Airline
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Old 07-16-2024, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by El Pilot
How are the healthcare benefits for a family of 3 looking at ABX? Is MIA commutable as a new FO? Thanks.
Miami is commutable but the flights can fill up fast, especially if there are company dead headers.
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Old 07-16-2024, 08:07 PM
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[QUOTE=Armyguy;3820605]are ABX schedules posted somewhere so we can jumpseat on you all?

Thanks, former ABX'er who left in late 2017 and glad I did. So much for being the Prime

1 No

2 ABX was never going to be "Prime" airline. That was ATI with the bag tags and goofy
uniforms.
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Old 07-16-2024, 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by El Pilot
How are the healthcare benefits for a family of 3 looking at ABX?
Medical, dental, vision, three options for medical with various deductibles & copays. Company pays 75% of premiums. We're adding a FSA next year.
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Old 07-17-2024, 06:18 AM
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Good morning -

I have been tracking the daytime flights for a few weeks now trying to gauge the frequency of ops. Do the daytime flights go senior? Or, is it luck of the draw based on your bids? As of this post, there were 4 birds up with a takeoff time of about 0600ish, mainly headed west.

I spent quite a bit of time flying at night in the middle east so I don't mind it. Curious how it works out if you have an early morning 0200-0400 arrival into KCVG and an additional leg.

Thanks,
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