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07-07-2024, 06:01 PM

#721

mpflyboy1

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Originally Posted by MorePower

Thank you for the information.

I learned on G1000 glass and have only flown jets using advanced avionics/LCD equipped aircraft. Sure I could learn to interpret an older setup, but doing it during a challenging 121 training program might prove too difficult.

Yeah, this is probably not for you.

07-07-2024, 09:13 PM

#722

Brownose74

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Originally Posted by nitefr8dog

That's funny after UPS low bid the USPS flying to get it from FDX. Cheap labor.

meanwhile a UPS 2nd year FO makes more than most of your captains. But yeah, I’ll cry my way to the bank citing “cheap labor”.

07-07-2024, 10:49 PM

#723

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Originally Posted by MorePower

The airline info page says that 70% of ABXs flights are night/ backside of the clock legs. With the increased amazon flying, will this remain the same.

Looking at flight aware it seems ABX does a decent amount of day flying.

You would have to look at what Atlas is doing now to get a feel for that. But looking through what we have in August, I'm not seeing much more of one than the other.

07-08-2024, 05:03 PM

#724

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Originally Posted by Brownose74

meanwhile a UPS 2nd year FO makes more than most of your captains. But yeah, I’ll cry my way to the bank citing “cheap labor”.

RJ captains are making more than ATSG captains these days.....

07-08-2024, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Cujo665

RJ captains are making more than ATSG captains these days.....

Which RJ captains would those be?

07-09-2024, 08:01 PM

#726

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Originally Posted by Brownose74

meanwhile a UPS 2nd year FO makes more than most of your captains. But yeah, I’ll cry my way to the bank citing “cheap labor”.

RJ Captains are making more than UPS, Delta, and FedEx Captains too, all depends
on how much they want to work. Take a look at the salary survey.

07-09-2024, 08:38 PM

#727

JohnBurke

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Originally Posted by nitefr8dog

RJ Captains are making more than UPS, Delta, and FedEx Captains too, all depends
on how much they want to work. Take a look at the salary survey.

The UPS pilots don't have to do extra work to stay well ahead. Therein lies the difference.

That, and one or two legs a day, and it's a retirement job; the last job most will ever have. Unlike other positions, UPS is a destination, not a stepping stone.

07-10-2024, 03:35 AM

#728

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Originally Posted by JohnBurke

The extra work is built into 80+ hour lines at UPS, pick your poison.
Add 20hrs of OT a month to 65 hr guarantee and yearly pay increases
significantly. UPS schedules suck!

07-10-2024, 08:18 AM

#729

FlyoverABX

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Originally Posted by Brownose74

meanwhile a UPS 2nd year FO makes more than most of your captains. But yeah, I’ll cry my way to the bank citing “cheap labor”.

First year FO at UPS still making a whooping $57 an hour?

07-10-2024, 08:27 AM

#730

FlyoverABX

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Originally Posted by MorePower

Are you insinuating that if your airplane doesn't have automation you don't understand how to fly with basic instruments?
That is a bit scary should automation fail, which it often does.