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Old 06-16-2024, 08:31 PM
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Hi all,

Reactivity, thanks for the response earlier.

I was fortunate enough to get a July class date, so I'll be heading to the sims July 1st. Extremely excited to be getting a 76 type and be at the front end of a hiring wave for this growth. Hopefully this means I'll be able to get a good amount of flying in without having to work a significant amount on my days off

Question though - is there anything I can reasonably do ahead of time to prepare for training?

My only other experience with type school is getting a bizjet rating at CAE. I memorized the memory items and limitations ahead of time and went througha textbook I was given to develop working systems knowledge.

This'll be my first 121 training event.

Is it recommended to try to find 767 resources to study prior, or just to go in with a fresh and clear mind and just study whatever the instructors tell you to, when they tell you?

Thanks
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Old 06-17-2024, 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by feelthebern
I was fortunate enough to get a July class date, so I'll be heading to the sims July 1st.

Question though - is there anything I can reasonably do ahead of time to prepare for training?

Is it recommended to try to find 767 resources to study prior, or just to go in with a fresh and clear mind and just study whatever the instructors tell you to, when they tell you?[size=33px]
If you're in the July class, you won't be seeing the simulator until at least the last week of July, maybe August. There is no need to try to study anything before July 1.

I have been through initial courses at FlightSafety and CAE (when it was Simuflite). This is very different in that at those places, you're a customer paying them to get you through a type rating course. You're now an employee in training and while we provide what I think is a high-quality training experience with several people standing ready to provide assistance along the way, we expect you to put in whatever effort you need to cross the finish line in the time allotted. We're not going to drag you there.

The first three-ish weeks (three weeks plus a couple of days) will be in the classroom, usually Monday through Friday with weekends off. During your evenings and weekends, in addition to reviewing what you covered that day and pre-reading what you're going to cover the next day, you should be learning flows and callouts. Sit in front of your cockpit poster (assuming they still provide those) or sit at the procedures trainer (even better - there is probably one at the hotel in addition to the one at the office) and practice the flows and the normal checklist callouts. You want to have those down before you step into the simulator. You want them to be nearly automatic so that you can focus on what you're training that day without having to think about the basic stuff.

During simulator training, you will get two consecutive days off per week. In the simulator, it's profiles and callouts (and flows, but you should already have a good handle on those). Chair fly the profiles with your sim partner and practice the callouts for what you did today and for what you're going to do tomorrow. Do them as many times as it takes so that they become automatic. Again, you want to spend your time in the simulator practicing them, not learning them. As far as memory items, there are only a few, they're mostly intuitive or familiar from previous experience, and only one of them is more than two or three steps. Learn them before going into the simulator, but they shouldn't take long to learn.[/size]

What I have presented here is the approach I used during initial training and what I have recommended to anyone else who has ever asked. It worked well for me. You're welcome to do whatever works for you. Aside from an occasional foot stomp to clue you into something you might see on a test, nobody is going to tell you what to study or when to study it. Over the course of initial training, you're going to be presented with all of the information you may need at one point or another in your time with ABX, and it's up to you to learn it. We try to ensure that you are set up to succeed, but ultimately, your success is your responsibility.
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Old 06-30-2024, 05:15 PM
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Good evening,
What is a fo first year pay these days?
and if possible, the average per diem for someone livin in base.
thank you
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Old 06-30-2024, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Carrier1arrived
What is a fo first year pay these days?
and if possible, the average per diem for someone livin in base.
APC data is current.

First year is $101.23/hour x 780 hours/year = $78959.40/year.
Per diem is $65/day away from base (i.e. you're not getting per diem for doing airport reserve if you don't get launched). You'll easily do at least 10 days per month if you're not actively avoiding flying.
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Old 07-01-2024, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Reactivity
APC data is current.

First year is $101.23/hour x 780 hours/year = $78959.40/year.
Per diem is $65/day away from base (i.e. you're not getting per diem for doing airport reserve if you don't get launched). You'll easily do at least 10 days per month if you're not actively avoiding flying.
Thank you very much!!
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Old 07-02-2024, 02:15 PM
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Hello.

Does anybody know by any chance if ABX provides international gateway travel(international commuting) like Atlas offers to their pilots?

Do All flights start from CVG and end in CVG?
so i must show up and report in CVG for all flights?
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Old 07-02-2024, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by united20
Hello.

Does anybody know by any chance if ABX provides international gateway travel(international commuting) like Atlas offers to their pilots?

Do All flights start from CVG and end in CVG?
so i must show up and report in CVG for all flights?
No.

Yes.

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Old 07-02-2024, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by astray
No.

Yes.

Filler
Thank you for your reply.
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Old 07-03-2024, 08:48 AM
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Not very true nor good answers. ABX does not allow international JS, with that said, we do not do a lot of international flying. For domestic operations we have reciprocal JS agreements with almost everyone so to speak (you must be in our CASS system). You can jumpseat on any segment, regardless of where it starts or ends. There are segments that never go thru CVG, so all legs are open. To list, simply contact our JS adminstration or for last min reservation our Flight Control/Following desk; all numbers should be in your airlines/unions information for JS on other carriers.

What the original answer referred to was our domicile for flight crews. All crews are based in CVG and therefore our trips begin/end there...nothing to do with JS though.
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Old 07-04-2024, 03:18 AM
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Originally Posted by united20
Hello.

Does anybody know by any chance if ABX provides international gateway travel(international commuting) like Atlas offers to their pilots?

Do All flights start from CVG and end in CVG?
so i must show up and report in CVG for all flights?
CVG would be your domicile. So yes you would start and end
all flights in CVG, that said there are times for one reason or another,
the company needs you to position elsewhere. In those cases,
a commercial ticket is purchased. Also, you can jumpseat on our international
flights, to/from domicile. And we have pilots living in Central and SA who do commute
to work on us. So international jumpseats are allowed, just not positive space.
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