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#661
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2008
Posts: 216
So...here's the question. Where is Amazon going to get 10 operational 767-300 freighters, that are worth owning, in six months? They're not going to be CAM leases, it appears, so I guess that eliminates the 3 newly-converted aircraft and lease returns sitting at ILN, and the 4 763s in conversion in TLV, and the 3 as-yet-unconverted frames sitting in ILN and GYR. Which would make 10. From the earnings call, it doesn't appear that CAM would be selling any of these frames to Amazon, so it's a mystery to me. The 767-300 is enough in demand that it's hard to imagine 10 used ones in decent-enough shape being available to onboard, but obviously there's a plan, because one thing Amazon does is plan. (And these aren't going just to be moved from Atlas, right?? They're for growth in the Amazon network, no? Well, not growth given that Amazon removed 12 frames in less than 2 years by parking the 767-200s, but growth from where we are today.)
#662
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2016
Posts: 847
Without a descent JS policy maybe. As it was, I drove to the airport got on a company airplane, and went to work.
No airplane or seat..I went home. It really wasn't that difficult. When it's time to go home, no going to the hotel, no waiting for a ride to the terminal, maybe an hour or two nap at the hub, get on a plane in the am, sleep on the way to home airport and done. Never going through airport security and trying to figure out if the gate agents were b#tches or not. I can honestly say, if I never had to fly on a passenger plane again it would still be to soon.
No airplane or seat..I went home. It really wasn't that difficult. When it's time to go home, no going to the hotel, no waiting for a ride to the terminal, maybe an hour or two nap at the hub, get on a plane in the am, sleep on the way to home airport and done. Never going through airport security and trying to figure out if the gate agents were b#tches or not. I can honestly say, if I never had to fly on a passenger plane again it would still be to soon.
#663
#665
Hopefully Flying
Joined APC: Jun 2022
Posts: 4
Is there any more info on the commuting policy at ABX? I saw that there were commuter bid lines on the profile page, but couldn't find much else.
#666
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2006
Position: Left, right & center
Posts: 839
1. Network carriers to a company domicile (CVG being the domicile at this point, and probably forever)
This includes any carrier flying in the DHL or Amazon network, or any other network for which an ATSG carrier may be flying. The policy requires that you verify you are listed after 1700 local domicile time the day before. If you get bumped from the jumpseat after that time or do not arrive in time for your trip due to weather, mechanical, diversion, etc., you're covered.
2. Non-network carriers, driving, or other means of commutingAll that is asked is that you make a reasonable effort to plan your commute considering any factors like weather, traffic delays, flight loads, etc. You're not really headed for trouble until you miss a third trip in a rolling 12-month period. Then you face a commute review board that will look at the evidence to determine whether you've just had a run of bad luck or you might just be really bad at planning your commute. You may face a period of 6 months to a year of more restrictive commuting options, and additional missed trips may place you in jeopardy of further disciplinary action.
3. Outstation reportingThis is a huge addition considering that it was not covered before, where missing a single trip outstation could result in termination. This section applies if you were to drop a company deadhead to the outstation. As an example, maybe you live in Phoenix and you have a trip that starts with a company deadhead from CVG to LAX. You may choose to drop the deadhead and get yourself to LA, saving you a trip to CVG and maybe getting you another night at home. (Separate from the commuter policy, if you have a trip that starts with a commercial deadhead, you can get the airline ticket from your home to the outstation.) The policy requires that you have two available commute flights that would get you there on time, or if driving, check factors affecting the drive and plan accordingly. If you are not able to arrive in time and the company is able to cover the flight without delay or cancelation (i.e. you informed crew scheduling early enough that they could find someone to cover it), you are covered. If the flight is delayed or canceled due to your late arrival, you go before the commute review board.
4. Commuting from outside the 48 contiguous United StatesThis section requires that you have available two commute flights that arrive at least 8 hours before your scheduled report time. You must notify crew scheduling when you board the flight and advise them of the airline, flight number and scheduled arrival time. Missed trip procedures of category #2 above apply, except that you will be required to have two flights that arrive 24 hours before scheduled report time. This section does not apply if you are commuting on ABX Air or network partners (i.e. Amazon or DHL flights operated by other carriers). #1 above applies in those cases.
#668
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jan 2020
Posts: 51
Congratulations on your new contract and additional 767's. What is the 401k retirement match? I have heard 16%? Also what would a second year captain and second year fo make with all the soft time? How long is the upgrade there now?
Thank you and very happy for you folks.
Thank you and very happy for you folks.
#669
Congratulations on your new contract and additional 767's. What is the 401k retirement match? I have heard 16%? Also what would a second year captain and second year fo make with all the soft time? How long is the upgrade there now?
Thank you and very happy for you folks.
Thank you and very happy for you folks.
2025 13%+1
2026 14% +1
2027 15% +1
the +1% is metric driven (performance), so not guaranteed.
The pay is hard to define your expected earnings. It will be based on how well you know the contract and how senior your are to take advantage of opportunities to increase your line credit.
Our SAP rules and trip protections are very good.
The junior captain award is currently 10/2021 hire but they are going to upgrade more soon for new planes and it could drop as low as late 2022 hires. Pure guess on my part is it runs 18-24 months soon. I believe a total of 77 captains are also retiring by end of 2028. (next 3.5 years).
as always this information is worth exactly what you paid for it and is subject to change.......
#670
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jan 2020
Posts: 51
[QUOTE=CaptainJay;3801345]DOS 12%
2025 13%+1
2026 14% +1
2027 15% +1
the +1% is metric driven (performance), so not guaranteed.
The pay is hard to define your expected earnings. It will be based on how well you know the contract and how senior your are to take advantage of opportunities to increase your line credit.
Our SAP rules and trip protections are very good.
The junior captain award is currently 10/2021 hire but they are going to upgrade more soon for new planes and it could drop as low as late 2022 hires. Pure guess on my part is it runs 18-24 months soon. I believe a total of 77 captains are also retiring by end of 2028. (next 3.5 years).
as always this information is worth exactly what you paid for it and is subject to change.......[/QUOTE
Nice! Congrats again.
2025 13%+1
2026 14% +1
2027 15% +1
the +1% is metric driven (performance), so not guaranteed.
The pay is hard to define your expected earnings. It will be based on how well you know the contract and how senior your are to take advantage of opportunities to increase your line credit.
Our SAP rules and trip protections are very good.
The junior captain award is currently 10/2021 hire but they are going to upgrade more soon for new planes and it could drop as low as late 2022 hires. Pure guess on my part is it runs 18-24 months soon. I believe a total of 77 captains are also retiring by end of 2028. (next 3.5 years).
as always this information is worth exactly what you paid for it and is subject to change.......[/QUOTE
Nice! Congrats again.
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