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#612
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Joined APC: Jun 2006
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We'll see what 2024 brings. We're adding the Airbus A330 to the certificate and while there are officially no customers for it at this point, this company has never been one to spend a dime without an expectation that they will see a return on their investment.
#613
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Joined APC: Mar 2023
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Any info on ABX for those who work or worked there? I heard training is top quality. How's QoL especially since it's not home based? What's the commuter policy? Are all your planes upgraded to glass cockpit? Do you only fly the 767 and not 757? How many days off a month? Any opentime for extra pay? Do you need to change your circadium rhythm every time like ATI does? Do you go international or just USA? Where is training and how long is it?
#614
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Joined APC: Jun 2006
Position: Left, right & center
Posts: 839
Yes.
I think it's pretty good. Those who have been through it tend to think it's pretty good.
Oh, the old queue-oh-ell question, as if that could possibly be answered definitively one time for every individual.
You either live in base or you commute. Maybe you commute from somewhere within driving distance, maybe you commute from Sweden. (I'm not exaggerating.) If you don't mind the commute, it's fine. If you don't like commuting, you're not going to like it. I commute from the west coast. I try to work all of my days in a single block then go home for two weeks. I rate my queue-oh-ell just fine. Even when it doesn't work out that way, it's fine. A couple of times a year, I try to stack days off and vacation to give myself a stretch of 35 days off.
Being home based is still commuting. It's just a different kind of commuting.
If you're commuting on the DHL or Amazon system, which covers pretty much every major metropolitan area and a good number of smaller cities, you're covered.
I still don't know why people keep asking this question or why they care. But no, they are not. All but two of the -200s we still have are "classic" panel, which is a two-tube EFIS system with mechanical airspeed, altimeter and VSI. Two of our most recently acquired -300s are also classic, but those two are also full FANS-1 (ACARS & CPDLC) equipped.
767 only. We had started the process of adding the Airbus A330 to our certificate, but due to cost cutting as the cargo business contracts, that project has been shelved until we can find a customer who wants us to fly them.
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Yes, but not much at the moment. For FOs, it's pretty much 0 because we're a little overstaffed on the FO side.
We have language in our contract that limits the number of day-night transitions and provides for extra rest when it does happen. However, due to the definitions of "day flight" and "night flight", it doesn't always feel like there are limits.
This is ACMI. We go wherever the customer wants us to go. In terms of international flying, we currently fly to Colombia, Panama and Costa Rica. We did Lima, Peru for a while. Not anymore. During The Covid, we were flying to Europe. That ended. We used to have some Caribbean flights. That contract ended. We used to fly to Mexico a bunch. That has all been given to the Canadians. We used to have a DOD flight that went to Ramstein and Cairo. We haven't had that one for a while. Years ago, they had a contract with ANA in Japan. We could get someting new next week, or just keep doing the same old stuff - whatever the customer wants.
Ground training is done in Wilmington, Ohio. Three weeks. Simulator training is another three-ish weeks in Wilmington, Miami, or Dallas, depending on simulator availabiility.
I heard training is top quality.
How's QoL especially since it's not home based?
You either live in base or you commute. Maybe you commute from somewhere within driving distance, maybe you commute from Sweden. (I'm not exaggerating.) If you don't mind the commute, it's fine. If you don't like commuting, you're not going to like it. I commute from the west coast. I try to work all of my days in a single block then go home for two weeks. I rate my queue-oh-ell just fine. Even when it doesn't work out that way, it's fine. A couple of times a year, I try to stack days off and vacation to give myself a stretch of 35 days off.
Being home based is still commuting. It's just a different kind of commuting.
What's the commuter policy?
Are all your planes upgraded to glass cockpit?
Do you only fly the 767 and not 757?
How many days off a month?
Any opentime for extra pay?
Do you need to change your circadium rhythm every time like ATI does?
Do you go international or just USA?
Where is training and how long is it?
#615
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Joined APC: Mar 2023
Posts: 93
Yes.
I think it's pretty good. Those who have been through it tend to think it's pretty good.
Oh, the old queue-oh-ell question, as if that could possibly be answered definitively one time for every individual.
You either live in base or you commute. Maybe you commute from somewhere within driving distance, maybe you commute from Sweden. (I'm not exaggerating.) If you don't mind the commute, it's fine. If you don't like commuting, you're not going to like it. I commute from the west coast. I try to work all of my days in a single block then go home for two weeks. I rate my queue-oh-ell just fine. Even when it doesn't work out that way, it's fine. A couple of times a year, I try to stack days off and vacation to give myself a stretch of 35 days off.
Being home based is still commuting. It's just a different kind of commuting.
If you're commuting on the DHL or Amazon system, which covers pretty much every major metropolitan area and a good number of smaller cities, you're covered.
I still don't know why people keep asking this question or why they care. But no, they are not. All but two of the -200s we still have are "classic" panel, which is a two-tube EFIS system with mechanical airspeed, altimeter and VSI. Two of our most recently acquired -300s are also classic, but those two are also full FANS-1 (ACARS & CPDLC) equipped.
767 only. We had started the process of adding the Airbus A330 to our certificate, but due to cost cutting as the cargo business contracts, that project has been shelved until we can find a customer who wants us to fly them.
14
Yes, but not much at the moment. For FOs, it's pretty much 0 because we're a little overstaffed on the FO side.
We have language in our contract that limits the number of day-night transitions and provides for extra rest when it does happen. However, due to the definitions of "day flight" and "night flight", it doesn't always feel like there are limits.
This is ACMI. We go wherever the customer wants us to go. In terms of international flying, we currently fly to Colombia, Panama and Costa Rica. We did Lima, Peru for a while. Not anymore. During The Covid, we were flying to Europe. That ended. We used to have some Caribbean flights. That contract ended. We used to fly to Mexico a bunch. That has all been given to the Canadians. We used to have a DOD flight that went to Ramstein and Cairo. We haven't had that one for a while. Years ago, they had a contract with ANA in Japan. We could get someting new next week, or just keep doing the same old stuff - whatever the customer wants.
Ground training is done in Wilmington, Ohio. Three weeks. Simulator training is another three-ish weeks in Wilmington, Miami, or Dallas, depending on simulator availabiility.
I think it's pretty good. Those who have been through it tend to think it's pretty good.
Oh, the old queue-oh-ell question, as if that could possibly be answered definitively one time for every individual.
You either live in base or you commute. Maybe you commute from somewhere within driving distance, maybe you commute from Sweden. (I'm not exaggerating.) If you don't mind the commute, it's fine. If you don't like commuting, you're not going to like it. I commute from the west coast. I try to work all of my days in a single block then go home for two weeks. I rate my queue-oh-ell just fine. Even when it doesn't work out that way, it's fine. A couple of times a year, I try to stack days off and vacation to give myself a stretch of 35 days off.
Being home based is still commuting. It's just a different kind of commuting.
If you're commuting on the DHL or Amazon system, which covers pretty much every major metropolitan area and a good number of smaller cities, you're covered.
I still don't know why people keep asking this question or why they care. But no, they are not. All but two of the -200s we still have are "classic" panel, which is a two-tube EFIS system with mechanical airspeed, altimeter and VSI. Two of our most recently acquired -300s are also classic, but those two are also full FANS-1 (ACARS & CPDLC) equipped.
767 only. We had started the process of adding the Airbus A330 to our certificate, but due to cost cutting as the cargo business contracts, that project has been shelved until we can find a customer who wants us to fly them.
14
Yes, but not much at the moment. For FOs, it's pretty much 0 because we're a little overstaffed on the FO side.
We have language in our contract that limits the number of day-night transitions and provides for extra rest when it does happen. However, due to the definitions of "day flight" and "night flight", it doesn't always feel like there are limits.
This is ACMI. We go wherever the customer wants us to go. In terms of international flying, we currently fly to Colombia, Panama and Costa Rica. We did Lima, Peru for a while. Not anymore. During The Covid, we were flying to Europe. That ended. We used to have some Caribbean flights. That contract ended. We used to fly to Mexico a bunch. That has all been given to the Canadians. We used to have a DOD flight that went to Ramstein and Cairo. We haven't had that one for a while. Years ago, they had a contract with ANA in Japan. We could get someting new next week, or just keep doing the same old stuff - whatever the customer wants.
Ground training is done in Wilmington, Ohio. Three weeks. Simulator training is another three-ish weeks in Wilmington, Miami, or Dallas, depending on simulator availabiility.
#618
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#620
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Joined APC: Jan 2020
Posts: 42
If you have any aspirations to move on to the legacies ABX is not the place to be. ABX is not a time-building airline. FOs that have been here a year are all still blocking 15 hours a month or less. Now, if you want to live in CVG area and get paid to sit at home on reserve and never fly, this is the job for you (when we hire again). Good luck.
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