FDX Flight Plans
05-26-2007, 11:54 AM
#33
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Because they are not working in an a job as real dispatchers, though they may be doing essentially the same job. So, if there is no jeopardy for them when screwing up, like there is for a pilot, how careful/safe do you think they are going to be? Not saying they would intentionally do anything, but if you are putting your ticket on the line everytime you sign a release.....
05-26-2007, 12:25 PM
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Because they are not working in an a job as real dispatchers, though they may be doing essentially the same job. So, if there is no jeopardy for them when screwing up, like there is for a pilot, how careful/safe do you think they are going to be? Not saying they would intentionally do anything, but if you are putting your ticket on the line everytime you sign a release.....
05-26-2007, 12:50 PM
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UPS, like FedEx, is technically considered a Supplemental Carrier (like all cargo carriers). Supplemental Carriers are all (normally) required to declare an alternate on every flight, regardless of the destination weather. However, UPS got a waiver many years ago to operate under the Domestic/Flag rules (I thought FedEx also got this waiver, but from the posts here, I guess that's not the case). We, like all Domestic/Flag carriers, have not been required to declare an alternate airport since we got this waiver, as long as the destination weather is above 1000 & 2 (yes, we also got a waiver from the 2000 & 3 requirement). The waiver to operate under Domestic/Flag rules also requires that we have licensed dispatchers, whose tickets are always on the line. It seems to work pretty well. Occassionally, we have to prompt the dispatchers for more fuel, but they seem to do a pretty good job of watching out for us.
Last edited by Need4Speed; 05-26-2007 at 01:29 PM.
05-31-2007, 02:17 PM
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05-31-2007, 06:39 PM
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So I guess that good old Bill McKelvy was right all along. He changed the cost index so many times, the company finally published that FCIF telling us to leave the damn thing alone. The understanding was always it was a balance between time vs. fuel. With the cost of fuel these days, maybe the company is planning on shorter hub turns or earlier departures and arrivals, in order to both save fuel and at the same time, make delivery. Should be an interesting balancing act, but I just can't envision flight plans much above FL 370, as the high and low speed margins get real close together, way up there.
Can't wait to see:
A. How many will really participate, especially outbound to the hotel
B. How bad our samedaylates become
05-31-2007, 07:30 PM
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The GOC guys mean well, but are generally clueless. I think they lack significant situational awareness because we bail them out by adding fuel.
Couple weeks ago we got relesed mem-den (MD10)with 19K FAT at Den. 5K ALT fuel for COS. Forecast for both Den and Cos had isolated showers. We added 5K and barely made it to Denver.
Those isolated showers roll off the mountains and reform over DIA every afternoon. What looks ok on paper is often far from reality.
Just like NQA, if there is convective crap in Denver there is a chance there will be a cell sitting on top of KCOS.
These guy will flight plan you into a box if you let them!
Couple weeks ago we got relesed mem-den (MD10)with 19K FAT at Den. 5K ALT fuel for COS. Forecast for both Den and Cos had isolated showers. We added 5K and barely made it to Denver.
Those isolated showers roll off the mountains and reform over DIA every afternoon. What looks ok on paper is often far from reality.
Just like NQA, if there is convective crap in Denver there is a chance there will be a cell sitting on top of KCOS.
These guy will flight plan you into a box if you let them!
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