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Old 03-25-2019, 05:19 PM
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Every airline has a few individuals who most consider very weak. They just barely make the cut in training and are considered weak because most pilots hold themselves far above the minimum standard. I have seen training situations where a weak or lower experienced pilot needed much more training than normal to make the grade, but I have never known an instructor to look the other way. They were eventually brought up to the minimum standard or let go. The scary possibility is when two weak pilots get paired up for a trip. Luckily those people are few and far between.
I am not suggesting that the crew involved in the crash fit into this category. I don’t know anything about them personally or their training record history. Just speaking in general.
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Old 03-25-2019, 06:12 PM
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Good article though. When the pay is much lower than others coupled with 16 day trips, they’re not going to attract the top candidates. Pay doesn’t make the pilot, but it does affect who applies, and who wants to to stay. I’d put most any senior crew at Atlas up against a widebody crew at Delta or United. Being that they’re not totally spoon fed on the line, my guess is that they’re better when it gets ugly. Companies like Atlas do have a problem attracting pilots that they want to hire. Most highly experience pilots who apply under these conditions are just looking to build a resume and get out as fast as they can. Provide a competitive contract with good pay and work rules and pilots will be knocking on their door, if not, take what you can get.
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Old 03-26-2019, 03:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Itsajob
Good article though. When the pay is much lower than others coupled with 16 day trips, they’re not going to attract the top candidates. Pay doesn’t make the pilot, but it does affect who applies, and who wants to to stay. I’d put most any senior crew at Atlas up against a widebody crew at Delta or United. Being that they’re not totally spoon fed on the line, my guess is that they’re better when it gets ugly. Companies like Atlas do have a problem attracting pilots that they want to hire. Most highly experience pilots who apply under these conditions are just looking to build a resume and get out as fast as they can. Provide a competitive contract with good pay and work rules and pilots will be knocking on their door, if not, take what you can get.
I agree with what you've said. Just to clarify, though, they're 17+ day trips.
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Old 03-26-2019, 04:56 AM
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Pay doesn’t make the pilot, but it does affect who applies...

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