FDX MAY Disputed Pairings
05-02-2007, 06:33 AM
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I think this stuff still works. I see three 3-peaters on the bus.
Captain and F/O (What a team!): Trip 495 15MAY07, 17MAY07, 18MAY07
CAPTAIN: Trip 495 16MAY07, 23MAY07, 24MAY07
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Click on the dates to look at the Trip Recap for each Disputed Pairing. (Access to FedEx VIPS required, of course.)
#-#-#-#-#- MEM A-300 DISPUTED PAIRINGS -#-#-#-#-#-
Trip 495 01MAY07, 02MAY07, 03MAY07, 04MAY07
Trip 495 08MAY07, 09MAY07, 10MAY07, 11MAY07
Trip 430 11MAY07
Trip 495 15MAY07, 16MAY07, 17MAY07, 18MAY07
Trip 495 22MAY07, 23MAY07, 24MAY07, 25MAY07
#-#-#-#-#- MEM B-727 DISPUTED PAIRINGS -#-#-#-#-#-
Trip 193 30APR07
Trip 241 30APR07
Trip 243 01MAY07, 02MAY07, 03MAY07
Trip 107 07MAY07
Trip 192 07MAY07
Trip 242 07MAY07
Trip 243 08MAY07, 09MAY07, 10MAY07
Trip 108 14MAY07
Trip 192 14MAY07
Trip 242 14MAY07
Trip 243 15MAY07, 16MAY07, 17MAY07
Trip 108 21MAY07
Trip 192 21MAY07
Trip 242 21MAY07
Trip 243 22MAY07, 23MAY07, 24MAY07
#-#-#-#-#- ANC MD-11 DISPUTED PAIRINGS -#-#-#-#-#-
Trip 125 01MAY07
Trip 108 21MAY07
Trip 165 23MAY07
#-#-#-#-#- DISPUTED PAIRING -#-#-#-#-#-
ALPA's founders chose "Schedule with Safety" as our motto. Support the SIG/PSIT in upholding that standard-- Don't fly disputed pairings!
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Captain and F/O (What a team!): Trip 495 15MAY07, 17MAY07, 18MAY07
CAPTAIN: Trip 495 16MAY07, 23MAY07, 24MAY07
===============================================
Click on the dates to look at the Trip Recap for each Disputed Pairing. (Access to FedEx VIPS required, of course.)
#-#-#-#-#- MEM A-300 DISPUTED PAIRINGS -#-#-#-#-#-
Trip 495 01MAY07, 02MAY07, 03MAY07, 04MAY07
Trip 495 08MAY07, 09MAY07, 10MAY07, 11MAY07
Trip 430 11MAY07
Trip 495 15MAY07, 16MAY07, 17MAY07, 18MAY07
Trip 495 22MAY07, 23MAY07, 24MAY07, 25MAY07
17 trips X 2 pilots = 34 pilot slots
#-#-#-#-#- MEM B-727 DISPUTED PAIRINGS -#-#-#-#-#-
Trip 193 30APR07
Trip 241 30APR07
Trip 243 01MAY07, 02MAY07, 03MAY07
Trip 107 07MAY07
Trip 192 07MAY07
Trip 242 07MAY07
Trip 243 08MAY07, 09MAY07, 10MAY07
Trip 108 14MAY07
Trip 192 14MAY07
Trip 242 14MAY07
Trip 243 15MAY07, 16MAY07, 17MAY07
Trip 108 21MAY07
Trip 192 21MAY07
Trip 242 21MAY07
Trip 243 22MAY07, 23MAY07, 24MAY07
23 trips X 3 pilots = 69 pilot slots
#-#-#-#-#- ANC MD-11 DISPUTED PAIRINGS -#-#-#-#-#-
Trip 125 01MAY07
Trip 108 21MAY07
Trip 165 23MAY07
3 trips X 2 pilots = 6 pilot slots
#-#-#-#-#- DISPUTED PAIRING -#-#-#-#-#-
ALPA's founders chose "Schedule with Safety" as our motto. Support the SIG/PSIT in upholding that standard-- Don't fly disputed pairings!
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05-02-2007, 08:15 AM
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SIG Letter:
#107, #108, #192, #193, (D) This route LCK-IND-BOS-EWR habitually runs late. After a 3:45 hub turn in IND the trip continues into the North East to BOS. The early AM passenger flight congestion has already started, holding inbound is not uncommon. The trip then has to get in the ATC cue for clearance to EWR at the height of the morning Continental Airlines recovery. Ground holds, reroutes and holding are common, on a clear day. Average delays into EWR are reaching 35 to 45 minutes, and have exceeded 1+20. In March at least 2 trips never reached EWR. Duty limits aside, this trip is onerous and fatiguing.
All we can see now is Rev 03, where the LCK-IND-BOS-EWR was broken up, with a 27:33 layover in IND vice 3:45. Why this was done is not clear, and it's also not clear whether this was the result of Rev 01, Rev 02, or Rev 03. Finally, it's not evident from Rev 03 what the schedule reflected when the trip was assigned to the pilots. The next to last sentence of the SIG note ("In March at least 2 trips never reached EWR.") seems now to be prophetic, as the first sequence of the May bid month failed to reach EWR. 
IF the trip was revised prior to assignment to break up the LCK-IND-BOS-EWR sequence that is disputed, it would be acceptable to fly the trip in any "volunteer" status.
IF the trip was revised after Block-Out due to some scheduling issue (weather, maintenance, fatigue, etc.), the SIG's objection to the sequence, and thus the dispute, is reinforced.
And this is where we need the feedback to the Union about these pairings. The crew can fill in the blanks about what happened to this pairing, and why, and give the Scheduling Committee the information they need to properly advance our case.
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05-02-2007, 09:46 AM
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05-02-2007, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by TonyC
I think this stuff still works. I see three 3-peaters on the bus.
Captain and F/O (What a team!): Trip 495 15MAY07, 17MAY07, 18MAY07
I'm not sure what FO is being discussed ref DP 495. I show 2 different FOs listed on the trip pairings listed for 15, 17 and 18 May. Never heard of the guy. Who's his brother? Anybody said anything to him/them? Somebody's got to know them. Both look fairly senior for Bus FOs.
I think this stuff still works. I see three 3-peaters on the bus.
Captain and F/O (What a team!): Trip 495 15MAY07, 17MAY07, 18MAY07
I'm not sure what FO is being discussed ref DP 495. I show 2 different FOs listed on the trip pairings listed for 15, 17 and 18 May. Never heard of the guy. Who's his brother? Anybody said anything to him/them? Somebody's got to know them. Both look fairly senior for Bus FOs.
05-02-2007, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyC
I think this stuff still works. I see three 3-peaters on the bus.
Captain and F/O (What a team!): Trip 495 15MAY07, 17MAY07, 18MAY07
I'm not sure what FO is being discussed ref DP 495. I show 2 different FOs listed on the trip pairings listed for 15, 17 and 18 May. Never heard of the guy. Who's his brother? Anybody said anything to him/them? Somebody's got to know them. Both look fairly senior for Bus FOs.
I think this stuff still works. I see three 3-peaters on the bus.
Captain and F/O (What a team!): Trip 495 15MAY07, 17MAY07, 18MAY07
I'm not sure what FO is being discussed ref DP 495. I show 2 different FOs listed on the trip pairings listed for 15, 17 and 18 May. Never heard of the guy. Who's his brother? Anybody said anything to him/them? Somebody's got to know them. Both look fairly senior for Bus FOs.
05-02-2007, 08:49 PM
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05-02-2007, 09:45 PM
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Found this in the CBA's implementation plan, under "automation index":
Automation Appendix to 2006 Pilot Collective Bargaining Agreement
25.BB Scheduling Improvement Group (SIG) -- Implement ability to flag trips as 'disputed' -- Target Date-Jul 07 Deadline-Oct 07
That looks to me like there will soon be no excuse, for anyone, to not know which pairings are disputed.
Automation Appendix to 2006 Pilot Collective Bargaining Agreement
25.BB Scheduling Improvement Group (SIG) -- Implement ability to flag trips as 'disputed' -- Target Date-Jul 07 Deadline-Oct 07
That looks to me like there will soon be no excuse, for anyone, to not know which pairings are disputed.
Last edited by Busboy; 05-03-2007 at 12:00 PM. Reason: anal retentive
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