UPS App. open today
04-10-2007, 12:44 PM
#41
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Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: Spartan
Posts: 3,652
I just finished filling out the on-line application and got this message after submitting it:
"We have received and reviewed your background application information. Unfortunately, we currently have many qualified applicants and will not be able to schedule you for additional testing at this time. Thank you for your interest in UPS."
My application status is "On File"
"We have received and reviewed your background application information. Unfortunately, we currently have many qualified applicants and will not be able to schedule you for additional testing at this time. Thank you for your interest in UPS."
My application status is "On File"
04-10-2007, 12:45 PM
#42
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Joined APC: May 2006
Posts: 997
Important Note
You must complete the entire app at one time, no updates are allowed, so make sure you have everything you need available. It' just one more thing to consider.
Slice - Where'd you hear about the 3000 number? I wonder how it will take to reach that #.
You must complete the entire app at one time, no updates are allowed, so make sure you have everything you need available. It' just one more thing to consider.
Slice - Where'd you hear about the 3000 number? I wonder how it will take to reach that #.
04-10-2007, 12:54 PM
#43
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Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: Spartan
Posts: 3,652
From a FO at the training center who had talked to HR. I'm kinda second guessing myself and wondering if he said 2000 now. No idea how long it would take to fill up either way...
04-10-2007, 12:56 PM
#44
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Joined APC: Aug 2006
Position: 737 Right
Posts: 1,385
A position report is a position report, and a radio is a radio. A track on a chart is a track on a chart. Anyone can be taught to follow the bearing pointer to the next steerpoint. That's not where the true skill set of an experienced aviator lies.
If you're a fighter guy who's been around long enough, you've penetrated an ADIZ without benefit of a tanker. You've translated every controller accent imaginable, you've heard of QFE before, you've landed at a strange foreign field in crummy weather. You probably did it alone, with no autopilot, while you coordinated for three other aircraft that you were responsible for.
I just find it humorous that UPS would rather have a 1000PIC/500heavies guy prior to a 3700 hr fighter guy with all the X's on the letter. That tells me all I need to know.
Not trying to make this a Heavy vs Fighter thread at all. The point being amount vs type of experience.
04-10-2007, 12:57 PM
#45
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Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: MD-11 FO
Posts: 91
Just wondering if others are having trouble getting in after logging out?
04-10-2007, 01:08 PM
#46
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Joined APC: Apr 2006
Position: MD
Posts: 237
I'm sure you're not really saying that your fighter experience left you unqualified to be an MD-11 crewmember, because I'm sure it didn't. You're giving the impression that your employer should have hired a less experienced heavy driver as opposed to hiring you. I'm going to guess that's not the way you really feel.
A position report is a position report, and a radio is a radio. A track on a chart is a track on a chart. Anyone can be taught to follow the bearing pointer to the next steerpoint. That's not where the true skill set of an experienced aviator lies.
If you're a fighter guy who's been around long enough, you've penetrated an ADIZ without benefit of a tanker. You've translated every controller accent imaginable, you've heard of QFE before, you've landed at a strange foreign field in crummy weather. You probably did it alone, with no autopilot, while you coordinated for three other aircraft that you were responsible for.
I just find it humorous that UPS would rather have a 1000PIC/500heavies guy prior to a 3700 hr fighter guy with all the X's on the letter. That tells me all I need to know.
Not trying to make this a Heavy vs Fighter thread at all. The point being amount vs type of experience.
A position report is a position report, and a radio is a radio. A track on a chart is a track on a chart. Anyone can be taught to follow the bearing pointer to the next steerpoint. That's not where the true skill set of an experienced aviator lies.
If you're a fighter guy who's been around long enough, you've penetrated an ADIZ without benefit of a tanker. You've translated every controller accent imaginable, you've heard of QFE before, you've landed at a strange foreign field in crummy weather. You probably did it alone, with no autopilot, while you coordinated for three other aircraft that you were responsible for.
I just find it humorous that UPS would rather have a 1000PIC/500heavies guy prior to a 3700 hr fighter guy with all the X's on the letter. That tells me all I need to know.
Not trying to make this a Heavy vs Fighter thread at all. The point being amount vs type of experience.
If you didn't read past my first two sentences, never mind.
Last edited by SC-7; 04-10-2007 at 03:12 PM.
04-10-2007, 02:28 PM
#48
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Joined APC: Sep 2006
Position: Tanker's
Posts: 76
Does ferrying a King Air 200 / Army RC-12 from Korea to the US via Okinawa, Guam, Wake, Midway, Adak and ANC count as oceanic? It's sure not a heavy aircraft, but it was a very heavy King Air. And I definitely checked yes and filled out the app. We'll see what happens.
04-10-2007, 02:58 PM
#49
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Joined APC: Feb 2007
Posts: 226
Hang tight.
I'm in the same boat, been checking the hotline and APC everyday, just waiting for a chance to get my stuff in.
With 7000 TT, 4500 turbine and 2500 of that as turbine PIC, I'm shot down because I'm limited to being a domestic dude.
But I would say to have faith, future Brown Avfriends!
We may find that after they fill the MD-11 and 744 stuff, they could possibly drop the trans-oceanic requirement and give us a chance.
That being said, MooseDriver is correct. If you try to skirt the questions and provide an answer that will be questionable in an interview, you could shoot yourself down!
This being MUCH worse!
Keep the faith, we will get there!
Brown someday!!
04-10-2007, 03:41 PM
#50
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Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: Aces II & Civilian HUD x2
Posts: 75
I'm sure you're not really saying that your fighter experience left you unqualified to be an MD-11 crewmember, because I'm sure it didn't. You're giving the impression that your employer should have hired a less experienced heavy driver as opposed to hiring you. I'm going to guess that's not the way you really feel.
A position report is a position report, and a radio is a radio. A track on a chart is a track on a chart. Anyone can be taught to follow the bearing pointer to the next steerpoint. That's not where the true skill set of an experienced aviator lies.
If you're a fighter guy who's been around long enough, you've penetrated an ADIZ without benefit of a tanker. You've translated every controller accent imaginable, you've heard of QFE before, you've landed at a strange foreign field in crummy weather. You probably did it alone, with no autopilot, while you coordinated for three other aircraft that you were responsible for.
I just find it humorous that UPS would rather have a 1000PIC/500heavies guy prior to a 3700 hr fighter guy with all the X's on the letter. That tells me all I need to know.
Not trying to make this a Heavy vs Fighter thread at all. The point being amount vs type of experience.
A position report is a position report, and a radio is a radio. A track on a chart is a track on a chart. Anyone can be taught to follow the bearing pointer to the next steerpoint. That's not where the true skill set of an experienced aviator lies.
If you're a fighter guy who's been around long enough, you've penetrated an ADIZ without benefit of a tanker. You've translated every controller accent imaginable, you've heard of QFE before, you've landed at a strange foreign field in crummy weather. You probably did it alone, with no autopilot, while you coordinated for three other aircraft that you were responsible for.
I just find it humorous that UPS would rather have a 1000PIC/500heavies guy prior to a 3700 hr fighter guy with all the X's on the letter. That tells me all I need to know.
Not trying to make this a Heavy vs Fighter thread at all. The point being amount vs type of experience.
Ditto here brother. I gave four years of my life to UPS when I was in college, it's clearly stated in my resume, in my two prior applications, it has taken me 13 years of my life to be able to apply, and now they come up with those requirements. WOW!
I guess that most of us fighter guys will be out of luck...
Hopefully FedEx won't come up with the same kind of requirements.
Good Luck to you all...
Cheers,
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