Western Global pilots help please
11-28-2018, 04:45 PM
#91
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2016
Posts: 848
The WGA chat seems pretty quiet compared to some of the other ACMI companies, so I guess that can be taken as a good thing. But looking at what they have to offer they seem kinda of behind on a lot of aspects. 17 days on, Junior manning, Economy tickets, daily payrates that make it impossible to credit more without working into your days off. Am I missing the forest for the trees or are my assumptions pretty correct estimating the lifestyle of WGA folks?
11-28-2018, 06:24 PM
#92
Banned
Joined APC: Feb 2017
Posts: 2,275
Has it ever occurred to you that maybe some of us LOVE the mission a heck of a lot more than what is offered by purple, brown, AA, UA, and DL?
Besides all that, I have absolutely nothing to be upset or bitter about. I don't give a crap if some one else pays more, or has this or that. I have far exceeded my expectations in life in regards to income, QOL, and lifestyle, working at my "bottom feeder". I only feel gratitude, and have a smile on my face every time I come into work. If you hate it where you are, make a change.
Besides all that, I have absolutely nothing to be upset or bitter about. I don't give a crap if some one else pays more, or has this or that. I have far exceeded my expectations in life in regards to income, QOL, and lifestyle, working at my "bottom feeder". I only feel gratitude, and have a smile on my face every time I come into work. If you hate it where you are, make a change.
11-28-2018, 06:41 PM
#93
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2017
Posts: 475
Has it ever occurred to you that maybe some of us LOVE the mission a heck of a lot more than what is offered by purple, brown, AA, UA, and DL?
Besides all that, I have absolutely nothing to be upset or bitter about. I don't give a crap if some one else pays more, or has this or that. I have far exceeded my expectations in life in regards to income, QOL, and lifestyle, working at my "bottom feeder". I only feel gratitude, and have a smile on my face every time I come into work. If you hate it where you are, make a change.
Besides all that, I have absolutely nothing to be upset or bitter about. I don't give a crap if some one else pays more, or has this or that. I have far exceeded my expectations in life in regards to income, QOL, and lifestyle, working at my "bottom feeder". I only feel gratitude, and have a smile on my face every time I come into work. If you hate it where you are, make a change.
11-28-2018, 09:26 PM
#94
Banned
Joined APC: Feb 2017
Posts: 2,275
Nothing wrong with being happy, I am happy at Atlas, would only consider leaving for Brown or Purple. Glad you’re happy where you are, but if FedEx or UPS had more like you, they’d still be the worst paid pilots in the industry. For most of us (in real life, not APC) this is just a job. The “mission” does not exist. The most dollars made for the least amount of time at work wins. Connie hit the jackpot with you.
11-28-2018, 11:01 PM
#95
Disinterested Third Party
Joined APC: Jun 2012
Posts: 6,264
I never entered flying to do the least amount of work, and I never have. I never want to. I began flying because I want to fly. That hasn't changed. If you don't want to fly and will do anything you can to avoid it, so be it. Clearly you look down your nose at those who don't share your aspiration, which is unfortunate for you.
11-29-2018, 03:51 AM
#96
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: B-737NG preferably in first class with a glass of champagne and caviar
Posts: 5,995
I've been flying the "mission for decades. The target has changed, whether fire in Montana, medical supplies in africa, assignments in Iraq and Afghanistan, Cargo to Louisville and Memphis both, and emergency medical flights in the dead of night for burn victims. I don't do this job for the "mission," but it's very integral to what I do.
I never entered flying to do the least amount of work, and I never have. I never want to. I began flying because I want to fly. That hasn't changed. If you don't want to fly and will do anything you can to avoid it, so be it. Clearly you look down your nose at those who don't share your aspiration, which is unfortunate for you.
I never entered flying to do the least amount of work, and I never have. I never want to. I began flying because I want to fly. That hasn't changed. If you don't want to fly and will do anything you can to avoid it, so be it. Clearly you look down your nose at those who don't share your aspiration, which is unfortunate for you.
. In the 45+ years, never considered it as work, no matter the weather conditions. I buggered off to the next adventure when I suspected and or if the T & C’s, QOL and benefits were tampered with. Simple... no drama... and today’s demand for crews should be more of a comedy rather than drama.
11-29-2018, 09:36 AM
#97
Disinterested Third Party
Joined APC: Jun 2012
Posts: 6,264
I chose flying because I hate working for a living.. In the 45+ years, never considered it as work, no matter the weather conditions. I buggered off to the next adventure when I suspected and or if the T & C’s, QOL and benefits were tampered with. Simple... no drama... and today’s demand for crews should be more of a comedy rather than drama.
. In the 45+ years, never considered it as work, no matter the weather conditions. I buggered off to the next adventure when I suspected and or if the T & C’s, QOL and benefits were tampered with. Simple... no drama... and today’s demand for crews should be more of a comedy rather than drama.--Mark Twain.
11-29-2018, 11:58 AM
#98
VHR-very happily retired
Joined APC: Aug 2007
Position: Retired
Posts: 1,419
The WGA chat seems pretty quiet compared to some of the other ACMI companies, so I guess that can be taken as a good thing. But looking at what they have to offer they seem kinda of behind on a lot of aspects. 17 days on, Junior manning, Economy tickets, daily payrates that make it impossible to credit more without working into your days off. Am I missing the forest for the trees or are my assumptions pretty correct estimating the lifestyle of WGA folks?
Herb at Southwest figured that out so many years ago and built a pretty successful airline.
In the end, happy people do not care a lot about how much they work or how much they are paid unless one of the above things is missing. Pilots on this board spend way too much time writing about the negative aspects.
Perhaps WGA represents that for those folks just like K4 is for me.
11-29-2018, 04:31 PM
#99
Line Holder
Joined APC: Mar 2010
Posts: 89
I was at Atlas for a year. I'd bid and get awarded 75 to 85 hour lines. At the end of the month I'd be sent home early and end up with 50 hours pay. Four days of home reserve for no pay, that's great. The last two months I told them to either give me some trips now or don't bother calling, I'm not going to hang by the phone if I'm not paid. They never called.
If they're ****ing on you there is no reason to open your mouth.
If they're ****ing on you there is no reason to open your mouth.
The WGA chat seems pretty quiet compared to some of the other ACMI companies, so I guess that can be taken as a good thing. But looking at what they have to offer they seem kinda of behind on a lot of aspects. 17 days on, Junior manning, Economy tickets, daily payrates that make it impossible to credit more without working into your days off. Am I missing the forest for the trees or are my assumptions pretty correct estimating the lifestyle of WGA folks?
11-29-2018, 07:48 PM
#100
Banned
Joined APC: Feb 2017
Posts: 2,275
I was at Atlas for a year. I'd bid and get awarded 75 to 85 hour lines. At the end of the month I'd be sent home early and end up with 50 hours pay. Four days of home reserve for no pay, that's great. The last two months I told them to either give me some trips now or don't bother calling, I'm not going to hang by the phone if I'm not paid. They never called.
If they're ****ing on you there is no reason to open your mouth.
If they're ****ing on you there is no reason to open your mouth.
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