FDX 2007 Hiring Rumors
03-24-2007, 09:06 AM
#163
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Section 23 (furlough)
Wrongo Swampbreath! If the -10 geezer FE does not take the 727 seat or if no seat he/she is qualified to hold is available (-10 excess) they are gone and not considered furloughed as far as the no volunteer section is concerned. The company can draft anytime, even with furloughs(but it is not "intended").
03-24-2007, 10:23 AM
#164
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Standing bid trumps!
Me thinks it may be a big gamble involving lawyers and such.......
03-25-2007, 04:09 PM
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Wrongo Swampbreath! If the -10 geezer FE does not take the 727 seat or if no seat he/she is qualified to hold is available (-10 excess) they are gone and not considered furloughed as far as the no volunteer section is concerned. The company can draft anytime, even with furloughs(but it is not "intended").
If the comany chose to do this to hook up some senior guys before age 60 changed:
23.A.2.A If the pilot is involuntarily excessed from his current crew
position and, as a result of his restriction, he is ineligible to
be awarded or assigned any other crew position, the pilot
may be furloughed.
Then they would trigger this:
23.A.11 There shall be no volunteer flying in any crew status while any
pilot is on furlough.
And yes, they could still cover all the flying they wanted to with Draft, but it would be under their control, not ours.
03-25-2007, 05:04 PM
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Last info I heard (today at lunch) was the company is looking at a bid to cover three years of training. The bid will include 757s, including an undisclosed as of yet FDA, and a large 10 excess bid. The significance of the three years, is the over 60 guys will either go to the 72 or most likely retire, prior to the next bid, when they could possibly bid back to the left seat. Don't know if I understand the logic of that, but that's what I was told.
03-25-2007, 05:36 PM
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03-25-2007, 06:11 PM
#168
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Swampbreath? Kind of mature language for an MD-11 Captain.
If the comany chose to do this to hook up some senior guys before age 60 changed:
23.A.2.A If the pilot is involuntarily excessed from his current crew
position and, as a result of his restriction, he is ineligible to
be awarded or assigned any other crew position, the pilot
may be furloughed.
Then they would trigger this:
23.A.11 There shall be no volunteer flying in any crew status while any
pilot is on furlough.
And yes, they could still cover all the flying they wanted to with Draft, but it would be under their control, not ours.
If the comany chose to do this to hook up some senior guys before age 60 changed:
23.A.2.A If the pilot is involuntarily excessed from his current crew
position and, as a result of his restriction, he is ineligible to
be awarded or assigned any other crew position, the pilot
may be furloughed.
Then they would trigger this:
23.A.11 There shall be no volunteer flying in any crew status while any
pilot is on furlough.
And yes, they could still cover all the flying they wanted to with Draft, but it would be under their control, not ours.
Past....
03-25-2007, 07:03 PM
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The key word there is "MAY" be furloughed. In an excess bid, there does not have to be a vacancy for them to move to. If they all go to the 727, (i know), and we had to many 727 FE's then we would have a company excess and the last guys hired would be the first ones out the door. Not the 10 guys.
Past....
Past....
Interesting tact by the company to make a 3 year training letter. Unrealistic by many accounts, but it sure would forces the Ropes to make up their mind. Wait 3 years to upgrade back to the front seat, if the law allows, or just throw in the towel. This whole age 60 thing is dicking up the entire program.
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