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10-21-2016, 06:25 AM

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minimwage4

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Originally Posted by Hotspot

Just curious on what you guys prefer as far as these two Airlines go. Once I reach my minimums I'll have to make a choice for my first Regional and I'm leaning more toward Envoy at the moment but it seems like every Regional out there has extremely mixed reviews including Envoy. Going to a school that has a partnership with Envoy but is it worth signing an agreement with them before I graduate? Or should I hold out for a different Regional? Like everyone I want to upgrade quick and get to the majors and I know there's no way to predict the fastest way to do that but I want to at least enjoy my time as a first officer with my first Regional. My dream is Southwest and I know they don't have any flow programs from any regionals as far as I know. So would signing up with Envoy and then once i get the required experience to apply for Southwest shoot for them and if I don't make it I could still flow to American. Just want to get some input from anyone who's had experience with these two regionals.

How old are you like 21? You're golden, worst case scenario is you go to Envoy and PDT and flow before you're 30. As far as southwest, unless you know someone there, you planing on how to go there now is like planning on what to do if you win the lottery. Focus on what you can control today, none of us know where we will end up, even after years in this business.

10-21-2016, 10:03 PM

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Hotspot

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Thanks for all the input guys. I understand that making the decision this early it's completely pointless and that everything discussed about these two today could change tomorrow. One thing I do not understand is being stuck on reserve. What exactly does that mean and what are the chances of being put on reserve at Envoy on day one?

10-22-2016, 08:47 AM

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CaptYoda

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Your schedule or what line you can potentially hold is based on your relative seniority. It is very likely to be on RSV for a few months as a new hire.

As an example lets say you are a new F/O with a seniority on the F/O list being 550/600. That means you have 549 F/O's ahead of you. If there are only 500 regular lines, you don't have the ability to hold one, unless someone senior to you bids RSV (it happens). In your case 49 people senior to you would have to bid RSV before you get a line.

Always bid what you want and not what you think you might get. You never know why people bid the way they do and you can be surprised at times. At the same time be careful how you master bid because you may get something you put in for (different airplane, base etc) unexpectedly.