lakehouse

My friends who are 15 year captains at skywest do like skywest but they also are now very concerned they will spend the next twenty years there till they retire.

Jvw700

We currently have about 40 captans leaving every month to various majors. If your friends aren't getting hired then it's just a matter of time ( unless they're unhirable)....
The conversations we have about them not getting the call usually end up revealing that they haven't (refuse to) attended any job fairs, don't meet some requirements (degree), haven't updated their apps....

lakehouse

Not my buddy Jeff..... He can't figure out why. Best we can figure out is he is over qualified.Ive sat and with my ears heard a major airlines recruiter say they don't target age but the computer isset to disqualify anyone over about 11000 hours. I know alot of people in this industry and only a select few are getting calls.

The pref interviews have even put the highly connected on the back burner for United.

chrisreedrules

In a short period of time PSA will be flowing 2014 hires. That's pretty incredible.

Jvw700

Sounds like 'hour-ism'!!

chrisreedrules

I'm sure you don't pay as much attention as those of us at the WOs, but there are some important factors to consider...

1) If you don't work for an AA WO, you can certainly apply to AA as an off the street hire. However, your chances are very slim that you will get hired because only 25-30% of new hires at AA are coming from off the street, and most of those are military pilots. That leaves UA and DA. Delta traditionally has hired about 50% of its pilots from the military. So maybe your odds aren't so good there (unless you go work for Endeavor, which is probably your best shot. And even they only have a 40-50% pass rate for their interview with Delta). That leaves UA, who also hires a large percentage of military pilots. However you can go work for an AA WO, have the exact same odds as every other non-WO pilot applying at DA and UA except for one thing: You have a guaranteed flow in your back pocket, "just in case".

2) AA has said that they are moving non-WO flying back to their WOs. That means pilots flying for other regionals may not have a job within a couple years. They are going to continue raising pay and improving the flow agreements as needed to attract pilots.

...There is a lot of speculation about what AA may do to attract pilots in the next couple years. I've heard everything from the well thought out and plausible (DoH), to the absurd (staple). Either way, things will continue to improve and the WOs will only further outpace the rest of the industry in terms of compensation and benefits as the pilot shortage deepens.

Jvw700

One flaw in point number 2
Skywest just signed a long term agreement with AA to place a bunch of our Crj 700's in PHX and ORD so.....

chrisreedrules

I never said SkyWest wouldn't have a future flying for AA. Just that the future will be different than that of Envoy, PSA, and Piedmont.

SkyWest is being positioned to do the flying that PSA was at one point slated to do out of ORD. And AA is likely positioning you to do Mesa flying out of PHX. I wouldn't even be surprised if some of Mesa's 900s end up at SkyWest. The 700s that AAG is transferring from Envoy to PSA are likely either going to take over Republic flying in DCA, or they will be dispersed throughout our bases and our 200s will end up in DCA doing Whiskey's flying out of there.

lakehouse

I don't like this guy personally but hes right.

Pick your poison, I'm still happy I picked eagle.

Jvw700

Man you sure know a lot about AA's business plans!! Do you sit in on planning meetings with the other executives!
Once upon a time 'eagle' was slated to get around 90 Crj 900's! Remember that?