Envoy or SkyWest on the crj at ORD
10-16-2016, 02:57 PM
#21
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Should I hurry and jump in to the presidential race?!
10-16-2016, 03:19 PM
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There are certain scheduling managers and VP's there that have to go before anything will actually improve!
10-16-2016, 03:28 PM
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10-16-2016, 03:32 PM
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It's working right now. AAG wants MORE pilots to come from the flow. What exactly gives you any indication it would not work?
More than likely you are just spouting nonsense you heard on here, same as all the other garbage advice advice that many many many pilots have proven to be incorrect, such as "don't chase an upgrade". By all means though: Be an FO for 8 years and don't have a flow in your back pocket incase no one calls you.
Most of the "institutional" advice seen on here is either badly outdated or was never really correct in the first place and was given by jaded, bitter pilots that were unfortunate victims of timing.
More than likely you are just spouting nonsense you heard on here, same as all the other garbage advice advice that many many many pilots have proven to be incorrect, such as "don't chase an upgrade". By all means though: Be an FO for 8 years and don't have a flow in your back pocket incase no one calls you.
Most of the "institutional" advice seen on here is either badly outdated or was never really correct in the first place and was given by jaded, bitter pilots that were unfortunate victims of timing.
10-16-2016, 03:54 PM
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What we're trying to say is no, a flow is not guaranteed. However, it is working and it is nice to have in your back pocket. It's better than not having it at all. As far as QOL we all know Envoy is not perfect, however, it is far from what people post here. Yes, there's disgruntled people, especially very senior people. I talk to my friends at TSA, Skywest, Expressjet, etc and they all complain about the same. Pick your poison. Might as well do it with more pay and flow.
10-16-2016, 03:57 PM
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What we're trying to say is no, a flow is not guaranteed. However, it is working and it is nice to have in your back pocket. It's better than not having it at all. As far as QOL we all know Envoy is not perfect, however, it is far from what people post here. Yes, there's disgruntled people, especially very senior people. I talk to my friends at TSA, Skywest, Expressjet, etc and they all complain about the same. Pick your poison. Might as well do it with more pay and flow.
10-16-2016, 03:58 PM
#30
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American airlines changed the entire flight file and network. They literally added a mid day flights to places like Waterloo Iowa to help the schedules. Unfortunately that takes a few months to implement. January is when it hits.
The damage of Scott Kirby is massive and its being addressed. First was cash, and honesty alot of it . Now bases and schedules. The arbitrator will set the tone where we go with rsv.
Trustme I've lived the nightmare here. But the steps are being taken. It will take a few months. The schedules are being addressed and fixed. In a few months mesa or someone eelse willbe posting how bad their flying from aa is. Which again is why saying oh this regional sucks because xxxx isn't a good reason to pick one. It changes and fast.
Pick a regional in the place you lliveand if more than one pick one with a good reputation and my opinion a flow. I think off the street hiring is drying up very fast, and flows will continue to be the norm along with pref interviews.
I have a squeaky clean record, a dad at united an uncle at Delta and more job fairs and lors than I know what to do with. Im god honest assuming ill flow at this point. I have friends who have been told by main they are too qualified and the computer will neverppickthem. My worst nightmare is 35 more years at ANY regional or even LCC. I'm very happy for the flow.
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