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Old 10-16-2016, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by pagey
It's working right now. AAG wants MORE pilots to come from the flow. What exactly gives you any indication it would not work?

More than likely you are just spouting nonsense you heard on here, same as all the other garbage advice advice that many many many pilots have proven to be incorrect, such as "don't chase an upgrade". By all means though: Be an FO for 8 years and don't have a flow in your back pocket incase no one calls you.

Most of the "institutional" advice seen on here is either badly outdated or was never really correct in the first place and was given by jaded, bitter pilots that were unfortunate victims of timing.
Talk about bad information coming straight from your mouth! Where would he be an 8 year FO not by choice?
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Old 10-16-2016, 02:09 PM
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Is the flow worth dealing with envoy's shenanigans for years? Why can't they just fix the QOL issues?
That's a relative question. In my case it is, because of my hire date. But guys hired a year after me have a totally different experience.
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Old 10-16-2016, 02:14 PM
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Because flows have always worked so well.....
Times have changed.
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talk about bad information coming straight from your mouth! Where would he be an 8 year fo not by choice?
xjt/asa.....
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xjt/asa.....
What's the title of this thread?
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Old 10-16-2016, 02:23 PM
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What's the title of this thread?
It was an example chief. I wasn't giving advice. I was giving an example of bad advice recently given on this site like it was bible.
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Old 10-16-2016, 02:29 PM
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It was an example chief. I wasn't giving advice. I was giving an example of bad advice recently given on this site like it was bible.
Like what? The flow not always working? He wasn't wrong. The flow is and always has been a big carrot to get people in the door and then to stay. If you're choosing an airline based on flow then envoy is your best bet! Certainly not PSA....
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Old 10-16-2016, 02:37 PM
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Like what? The flow not always working? He wasn't wrong. The flow is and always has been a big carrot to get people in the door and then to stay. If you're choosing an airline based on flow then envoy is your best bet! Certainly not PSA....
I don't remember telling the OP to go to PSA.

The flow is working. To insinuate otherwise is misleading. Making a snarky comment about the flow not working is ignorance akin to "Uphill both ways in 2 feet of snow". It is outdated and untrue.
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Old 10-16-2016, 02:41 PM
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I don't remember telling the OP to go to PSA.

The flow is working. To insinuate otherwise is misleading. Making a snarky comment about the flow not working is ignorance akin to "Uphill both ways in 2 feet of snow". It is outdated and untrue.
The flow is currently working. Didn't say it wasn't. But it's always been a carrot... guys flowing at eagle have waited 15-17 years. Will guys have to wait that long this time? Probably not, but there's more to chosing an airline than the flow....
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The flow is currently working. Didn't say it wasn't. But it's always been a carrot... guys flowing at eagle have waited 15-17 years. Will guys have to wait that long this time? Probably not, but there's more to chosing an airline than the flow....
Base and upgrade are the same between the two.

Envoy wins on pay, unless you get stuck for like 15 years. Why not have a flow to fall back on? You have turned this into a totally different discussion now. Maybe you should be a politician instead of a pilot?
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