Envoy vs Spirit... Where would you fly?
10-12-2016, 04:23 AM
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Envoy vs Spirit... Where would you fly?
Guys here's the thing
I have 3000 hours flying abroad
and an A320 type rating
I have one offer from spirit as an F/O based in FLL and I also have an offer from envoy based at DFW flying the e175.... I don't care about the money... I care about my career, although I feel the embraer it's a downgrade, I'm kind of in love with the idea of flying for American Airlines....
What would you do?
Thanks in advance for your advices
I have 3000 hours flying abroad
and an A320 type rating
I have one offer from spirit as an F/O based in FLL and I also have an offer from envoy based at DFW flying the e175.... I don't care about the money... I care about my career, although I feel the embraer it's a downgrade, I'm kind of in love with the idea of flying for American Airlines....
What would you do?
Thanks in advance for your advices
10-12-2016, 04:33 AM
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Where do you live? I have to say, it's pretty pathetic we're even having this conversation 
10-12-2016, 05:06 AM
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By the way, you didn't get an offer to be an FLL based first officer. You have to wait until your seniority can hold FLL, and that will take a few months. Are you sure you're for real?
10-12-2016, 05:39 AM
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If you have to ask the question of Spirit or Envoy, there's a third choice for you!
https://www.webcruiter.no/WcMain/Adv...nk_source_id=0
https://www.webcruiter.no/WcMain/Adv...nk_source_id=0
10-12-2016, 06:13 AM
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If you have to ask the question of Spirit or Envoy, there's a third choice for you!
https://www.webcruiter.no/WcMain/Adv...nk_source_id=0
https://www.webcruiter.no/WcMain/Adv...nk_source_id=0
Wow. Uh, no.
10-12-2016, 06:22 AM
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Guys here's the thing
I have 3000 hours flying abroad
and an A320 type rating
I have one offer from spirit as an F/O based in FLL and I also have an offer from envoy based at DFW flying the e175.... I don't care about the money... I care about my career, although I feel the embraer it's a downgrade, I'm kind of in love with the idea of flying for American Airlines....
What would you do?
Thanks in advance for your advices
I have 3000 hours flying abroad
and an A320 type rating
I have one offer from spirit as an F/O based in FLL and I also have an offer from envoy based at DFW flying the e175.... I don't care about the money... I care about my career, although I feel the embraer it's a downgrade, I'm kind of in love with the idea of flying for American Airlines....
What would you do?
Thanks in advance for your advices
10-12-2016, 06:25 AM
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Guys here's the thing
I have 3000 hours flying abroad
and an A320 type rating
I have one offer from spirit as an F/O based in FLL and I also have an offer from envoy based at DFW flying the e175.... I don't care about the money... I care about my career, although I feel the embraer it's a downgrade, I'm kind of in love with the idea of flying for American Airlines....
What would you do?
Thanks in advance for your advices
I have 3000 hours flying abroad
and an A320 type rating
I have one offer from spirit as an F/O based in FLL and I also have an offer from envoy based at DFW flying the e175.... I don't care about the money... I care about my career, although I feel the embraer it's a downgrade, I'm kind of in love with the idea of flying for American Airlines....
What would you do?
Thanks in advance for your advices
1. Envoy isn't AA. Eventually you'll flow there. I think estimates are 7-9 years.
2. Large U.S. airlines don't care that you have a specific type ratings. In the U.S. it doesn't help you get a job any faster unlike overseas.
3. What's your age? 50+ go to Spirit. <30-35? Go to Envoy. 35-50? That's the tough decision range.
4. What's your long term goal? Spirit will be better for at least the first 10-15 years, Envoy then AA will be better long term. Want a AA/DL/UA job? Do you have a four year degree? Right now that's a must, so if the Big 3/4 is the goal head to Envoy then AA.
5. Hoping to do long haul w/b flying? Envoy/AA.
6. Want to fly domestic n/b forever? For the shorter term (10-15 years?) Spirit is better. But even AA will be better for the long term. In either 10 or 15 years (I forget the year researched but I think it was 10 years), using the current bidding patterns, a new hire today will be in the top 5% of n/b FO's at every base and often will be in the top 2-3%. In general guys leave the n/b's at AA as their seniority increases.
10-12-2016, 06:29 AM
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Thanks for all the positive feedback
For what I read here I'm definitely choosing spirit.
in response to some haters that say this is not serious, I am definitely serious I just don't know anything about the American aviation scenario, as I said before I have foreign experience because I'm not American, I just happened to marry one.
See you on board NK
Happy landing everyone
For what I read here I'm definitely choosing spirit.
in response to some haters that say this is not serious, I am definitely serious I just don't know anything about the American aviation scenario, as I said before I have foreign experience because I'm not American, I just happened to marry one.
See you on board NK
Happy landing everyone
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