John Carr

Well, in this hiring wave/era, it's like an old man's diaper...

I'll REPEAT IT, historically and in years past, TPIC was valued often the most important metric in candidate selection, the other things were secondary.

THIS era is DIFFERENT. Who does the guy know? Is he connected/networked? Did he intern anywhere? How many kittens have he rescued?

If you were to take a background snapshot of the civilians of a new hire class at (insert legacy here) of the OTS hires (non SSP), the majority of them have TPIC. But the amount of non-TPIC people in the classes per capita is larger than in 2007-2008, larger than in the pre 9/11 era. And that's because the points/metrics that drive the HR process have changed.

It's a poll, so you're asking. But I'm ALSO a little "old school" in my thinking, so it DOESN'T MATTER.

But I'd go for the TPIC, even SE. For NOTHING else than to build the skill set, make for a more well rounded pilot, prove they've accepted the responsibility of signing for the plane and payload, whatever.

However, AGAIN, in this day and age of performance based/targeted selection it simply doesn't matter as much as it ever did.

LRSRanger

Once your at 135 mins why fly a caravan? Places like Ameriflight would love to seat you between a pair of PT6s if you want turboprop PIC. Unless you are going to Alaska I just can't fathom why people would fly a van over a BE99. Essentially the same job (low paid 135), why wouldn't you want the multi time too? The 121 jet SIC vs 135 turboprop PIC is a big roll of the dice the way I see it.


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CATIII

ok, oddly the poll above seems to show otherwise..

thanks for the comments, would love to hear from others too.

IlliniPilot99

6 people voted...great sample size...but put it this way, I know dozens of pilots that had to go to jet sic after years of turboprop PIC because it's just not what it used to be.

secondly, you won't get hired at a legacy or even a top tier corporate gig with thousands of hours of caravan time (unless there is some great redeeming factor; i.e. masters degree, high up connections)

but good luck...check back in a few years please

CATIII

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Cloudnine

I'm in a similar boat, currently 135 SIC in a PC-12 and wondering about whether to head to the regionals when I get to ATP mins, or stick it out, upgrade at between 1500-2000 hours then get that 1000TPIC. I'm leaning towards regionals as my eventual goal is to fly overseas and they (Cathay, Singapore, JAL , Etihad etc.) all seem to require at least 500 hours jet and no specific TPIC.
Am I making a good call here?

viper548

There are tons of guys out there with nothing but turbine SIC. You won't be competitive for a job with the majors until at least 3000 hours, so may as well get some turbine PIC then head to the regionals for some multi SIC.

Gjn290

CATIII

I assume the person you are talking about is flying for Mokulele Airlines. Based on my experience, I would stay flying for them and build the 1000 TPIC, get it while he can. It's a solid company, a lot of fun, and the pay is OK. The experience he will get flying scheduled 135 will teach him things like structure, SOPs, passenger comfort, and good decision making. Also, since they operate all their flights two crew his CRM should be solid by the time he hits his 1000 TPIC. It will make his transition to 121 much easier, IMHO. That's what I did and feel it has helped mold me into the pilot I am today.

The 1000 TPIC, single engine or not, will allow him to check boxes that others cannot, at least giving him a shot of having his resume looked at.

I would recommend though that as soon as he gets his 1000 TPIC he get into jet. That will round of his resume nicely.

Toonces

Any chance you can get to be the HMFIC should be a chance worth taking. It makes you a better pilot and looks good on your resume. Move on from that position when it is right, whether that is at 200 or 2000 pic.


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CATIII

thanks, bump for more opinions .