Going Expat Hurt My Career
08-03-2015, 01:26 PM
#11
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I've done my homework. Yes, getting on with a major or legacy is my number one goal. With that being said, it could happen in three months or three years. My thinking is way not go enjoy some different type of flying, get a $45,000 dollar raise, and diversify my resume and life.
I think the regional model has hurt US aviation more than foreign carriers ever could. Like others say, why won't ALPA put as much cash torwards regional pilot wages as they do fighting NAI or the ME3, the industry wouldn't have this problem.
But as many of you are aware, aviation is driven by politics, and some pilots tend to get butt hurt if you don't follow or do as they say.
I think the regional model has hurt US aviation more than foreign carriers ever could. Like others say, why won't ALPA put as much cash torwards regional pilot wages as they do fighting NAI or the ME3, the industry wouldn't have this problem.
But as many of you are aware, aviation is driven by politics, and some pilots tend to get butt hurt if you don't follow or do as they say.
08-03-2015, 02:14 PM
#12
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There are many pilots at the ME3 that got hired back at the U.S Majors, many...I personally know a few who got hired at Delta and United recently, some decided not to leave to DAL/UAL, others went back...
ALPA is a huge joke run by morons...I wouldn't pay any attention to them...They are similar to trailer trash...
ALPA is a huge joke run by morons...I wouldn't pay any attention to them...They are similar to trailer trash...
08-03-2015, 02:32 PM
#13
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Hello,
I have a interview with one of the Middle East carriers. I've read and understood everything I'm getting myself into, but my biggest concern is if I jump ship, will I get black listed from US airlines?
It seems there's a strong divide between pilots at the majors; the union people all say I will not get hired. The folks who want to separate from the union say do what's best for you.
I understand ALPAs view on the ME3, and how much they lobby against the ME3 expanding.
Thoughts on this?
I have a interview with one of the Middle East carriers. I've read and understood everything I'm getting myself into, but my biggest concern is if I jump ship, will I get black listed from US airlines?
It seems there's a strong divide between pilots at the majors; the union people all say I will not get hired. The folks who want to separate from the union say do what's best for you.
I understand ALPAs view on the ME3, and how much they lobby against the ME3 expanding.
Thoughts on this?
Purple Drank opines
You would be working for a company--pretty much working for a country--that is ignoring its international obligations in an attempt to utterly destroy the US airline industry.
you do the math.
you do the math.
I mean come on... ALPA taking on the battle of Medical Reform? How's about 117 rules?
Another suggestion... lobby your management to design a product that can compete with carriers you feel a threat to your future.
Last edited by captjns; 08-03-2015 at 02:49 PM.
08-03-2015, 02:54 PM
#15
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How much TPIC do you have now? Compare your future resume if you stay or if you leave.
I'd focus on upgrading. Get 1000 hrs TPIC and reevaluate the battlefield. The overseas jobs will still be available.
I'd focus on upgrading. Get 1000 hrs TPIC and reevaluate the battlefield. The overseas jobs will still be available.
08-03-2015, 02:57 PM
#16
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I've done my homework. Yes, getting on with a major or legacy is my number one goal. With that being said, it could happen in three months or three years. My thinking is way not go enjoy some different type of flying, get a $45,000 dollar raise, and diversify my resume and life.
If money wasn't a factor, you could look at places like Kalitta or Atlas. That would take you places you haven't been and diversify your resume.
Having said all that, have you done everything at your current employer to boost your resume i.e. Check airman, etc?
08-03-2015, 03:09 PM
#17
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I wouldn't do it.
I have heard nothing but horrible stories about those carriers and the deceptive, crappy way they treat pilots. You work your ass off, and at least two of the carriers I know have lied to friends about important work and compensation issues.
I would never work for anyone in that whole region of the world. They are not my cup of tea. I prefer people who practice business fairly.
08-03-2015, 04:26 PM
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08-03-2015, 06:24 PM
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There are many pilots at the ME3 that got hired back at the U.S Majors, many...I personally know a few who got hired at Delta and United recently, some decided not to leave to DAL/UAL, others went back...
ALPA is a huge joke run by morons...I wouldn't pay any attention to them...They are similar to trailer trash...
ALPA is a huge joke run by morons...I wouldn't pay any attention to them...They are similar to trailer trash...
Unions just aren't a factor, they could not prevent the decline of aviation pay, and they can't find a better contract in less than four years if ever.
It isn't about unions, it is about a competitive product on the high and low end.
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