PC12 full benefits or Jets with no life.
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IflyApanes
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PC12 full benefits or Jets with no life.
I keep going back and forth. Losing my job flying a turbo commander. I have an opportunity to go into a PC12 with full benefits, PTO, 7 days on 7 days off. OR get a Lear 35 type, Falcon 50 type, no benefits on call all the time, 2-4 year commitment after training contracts. Both jobs pay the same.
What would YOU do!?
What would YOU do!?
#2
What are your objectives? If it's pay and QOL take the jet (ME turbojet).
If you're not interested in airlines or bigger equipment (or in too much of a hurry) take the PC-12...you can also hang out there until a better deal on a jet comes along.
If you're not interested in airlines or bigger equipment (or in too much of a hurry) take the PC-12...you can also hang out there until a better deal on a jet comes along.
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I keep going back and forth. Losing my job flying a turbo commander. I have an opportunity to go into a PC12 with full benefits, PTO, 7 days on 7 days off. OR get a Lear 35 type, Falcon 50 type, no benefits on call all the time, 2-4 year commitment after training contracts. Both jobs pay the same.
What would YOU do!?
What would YOU do!?
How often do you expect you would actually fly the jets?
#5
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I would like to see 6 figures in my salary in the next 6 years, I'm not interested in the airlines at all, but I think the corporate world would be a good fit for me. So far all of my experience is Part135 single pilot Alaska bush pilot and lower 48 air ambulance. The jets I'm going into fly 1/10th of the time the PC12 does.
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I would like to see 6 figures in my salary in the next 6 years, I'm not interested in the airlines at all, but I think the corporate world would be a good fit for me. So far all of my experience is Part135 single pilot Alaska bush pilot and lower 48 air ambulance. The jets I'm going into fly 1/10th of the time the PC12 does.
The Pilatus flies ten times more than the jets.
(Both jets combined or ten times each jet?)
You will be flying the Pilatus 50% of the times, so if the Pilatus flies 90hr/month, with the jets you would fly 18hr/months since you will be the one flying the jets all the times (or 36hr/month combined if you meant to say the Pilatus flies ten times what each jet flies).
200-300hr/year is just about normal in corporate.
Sounds like the QOL would be much better with the Pilatus, but if you need to boost your qualifications, the two type ratings and the jet experience could get you where you said you want to be faster then the turboprop.
If your ambulance experience is with jets, and you have some time with them, then I did not understand your qualifications, and in that case I would park in a comfortable job, waiting for the right opportunity, just staying current burning jetA.
What I really don't like is the idea of 2-4 years commitment.
One year is pretty standard, I heard of two in case of full service training at FSI, I guess we could say a year per type is understandable too, but 3-4 it is really harsh and I don't even know if such agreement could be enforceable.
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Given the relative age of the Falcon 50 and Lear 35 (both fleets are shrinking), I have to question the idea of a 4-year contract (!!) in exchange for being type-rated on these aircraft. Seems like 4 years from now, the amount of Falcon 50 and Lear 35 jobs will be fewer than today.
I'd go for the PC-12. Being on call 'all the time'...no thank you.
I'd go for the PC-12. Being on call 'all the time'...no thank you.
#9
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Your salary expectations should not be too hard to achieve in the time frame you want. Let me understand, and correct me if I got it wrong;
The Pilatus flies ten times more than the jets.
(Both jets combined or ten times each jet?)
You will be flying the Pilatus 50% of the times, so if the Pilatus flies 90hr/month, with the jets you would fly 18hr/months since you will be the one flying the jets all the times (or 36hr/month combined if you meant to say the Pilatus flies ten times what each jet flies).
200-300hr/year is just about normal in corporate.
Sounds like the QOL would be much better with the Pilatus, but if you need to boost your qualifications, the two type ratings and the jet experience could get you where you said you want to be faster then the turboprop.
If your ambulance experience is with jets, and you have some time with them, then I did not understand your qualifications, and in that case I would park in a comfortable job, waiting for the right opportunity, just staying current burning jetA.
What I really don't like is the idea of 2-4 years commitment.
One year is pretty standard, I heard of two in case of full service training at FSI, I guess we could say a year per type is understandable too, but 3-4 it is really harsh and I don't even know if such agreement could be enforceable.
The Pilatus flies ten times more than the jets.
(Both jets combined or ten times each jet?)
You will be flying the Pilatus 50% of the times, so if the Pilatus flies 90hr/month, with the jets you would fly 18hr/months since you will be the one flying the jets all the times (or 36hr/month combined if you meant to say the Pilatus flies ten times what each jet flies).
200-300hr/year is just about normal in corporate.
Sounds like the QOL would be much better with the Pilatus, but if you need to boost your qualifications, the two type ratings and the jet experience could get you where you said you want to be faster then the turboprop.
If your ambulance experience is with jets, and you have some time with them, then I did not understand your qualifications, and in that case I would park in a comfortable job, waiting for the right opportunity, just staying current burning jetA.
What I really don't like is the idea of 2-4 years commitment.
One year is pretty standard, I heard of two in case of full service training at FSI, I guess we could say a year per type is understandable too, but 3-4 it is really harsh and I don't even know if such agreement could be enforceable.
#10
I'd take the QOL in the Pilatus, keep networking, and wait for a better jet job down the line. Also, in my experience, looking around for another job is a million times easier/more fun when you don't hate the one you're already at.
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