SenecaII

All the more reason to ALWAYS exercise your right to request a copy of all records previous employers send. Knowing that you will receive a copy will likely keep previous employers that may be less than decent from risking the liability of putting questionable or false information in your report.


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Std Deviation

Yes. Under the Airline Safety Act of 2010 (the same one that changed the ATP requirements) PRIA is modified. 91 operations are REQUIRED to report any info that questions piloting ability, proficiency, or skills - this would include standards flights under part 91 and training events. They also have to report any termination, even if not related to flying ability.

I urge you to read HR 5900 and see what's in there. The biggest change to PRIA is a database that will follow you for life (no longer 5 years). Previous enforcement actions that were expunged after 5 years will now be there forever. This has yet to be enacted but employers were notified to begin turning over records for inclusion in the electronic database. In one click part 121 and 135 operators will get everything - including written exam and practical test failures (currently maintain on microfiche).

An article on this matter is scheduled to run in the October issue of Professional Pilot Magazine (free subscription for pilots if you don't already get it).

The new PRIA ( as a result of the Colgan accident in Buffalo)--
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/111/hr5900/text

You also need to look at FAA 8900 which provides instructions for FAA inspectors in how to deal with PRIA. The legal interpretation is that 91 operations must report.

Beech90

When I interviewed at a few airlines earlier this year, they only wanted info going 5 years back. I believe pria is only 5 years, faa records are forever.

Std Deviation

No. PRIA is being modified; it's now forever.

Std Deviation

Used to be five years.
Now PRIA will be forever(once the database becomes effective). With one click 135/121 employers will be able to see the results of a private pilot written 20 yrs ago. The microfiche records are being digitized. I'm the author of the article. Spent two months researching the implications and verifying with my contacts at FAA/NTSB.

eman

Where's a link to that article you authored? I think before you mentioned you wrote a book as well...I didn't write the title down is it even out yet? I remember the topic caught my attention.

sealandair

What about training records at a Part 141/142 school from say 20 years ago? I'm not sure how long they were required to keep records on all pilots in their program. Or is the information solely limited to things the FAA would have records of, like FAA written and practical tests?

Duksrule

Is there a form you fill out when you fill out the PRIA request that your future employer sends to the former employer? I have heard that most companies are afraid to say anything short of "yes he worked here" but my current company has a pretty vindictive track record when people quit no matter how much notice you give them.

rickair7777

Yes, and there's a box to check to indicate that you want copies sent to you as well.

That's generally true outside of aviation, but anyone who responds to a PRIA request is required to submit the data specified in the law, which goes into more detail.

They are limited by law as to what they can say in a PRIA response. But if called for a reference check they can say anything they want...as long as they're willing to incur the potential liability.

Important take-away for noobs...past aviation employers can hold your career hostage essentially forever since employers place a lot of weight on references from past employers. DO YOUR HOMEWOK before you take a job with some scumbag who's going to hold your reference as hostage when he demands you work long hours and violate FARs left and right. These guys are like the mafia...once you do business with them they own you, the only way out is on their terms.

NoSidNoStar

Amen! And remember, if a job is too easy to get, there could be something fishy.