outaluckagain

Many people leave training but you don't allways hear about it. People don't just introduce themselves and say their credentials speak for themselves, they washed out.

I am going to call AOPA in a day or so. I am not saying to cover things up, but maybe it wasn't really your fault.

By the way, a common problem with newhire washout is poor scan and overload from all the new automation and callouts etc. No general aviation pilot ever flies like they do in 121 ops. Many times their first experience in a 121 sim is quite a shock.

Hey, I don't advocate spending hard earn money, but since you had problems, maybe Aerosim may be of assistance. That CRJ course has been known to help people with automation and flow procedures problems. You did indicate that this was your issue.

WannaBeDriver

True. I've heard many people washing out, and while it's a set back, with some training it's a non issue. I may consider Aerosim.

There was a guy on the ERJ side that left for family reasons. Is that a washout? We both were there the same amount of time, and we both resigned. I don't see how it's different

JohnnyG

Dude, they are required to even ask Flight Schools where you've instructed about PRIA.

WannaBeDriver

That's more so an FBI background check. 91 isn't required to report to PRIA.

outaluckagain

I was sure it said PRIA is only for 121 carriers. The company you are applying for may ask you where you have been working, but they don'y handle this as a PRIA.

PRIA is FAA,and completely different that what your employer wants to know about you. You employer is involved in a 10 year background check that has nothing to do with PRIA.

I'll find out more, but PRIA may not include where you worked as a CFI, or at least it is not supposed to anyway.

Anyway, it may not be bad to report it anyway. Just say your scan was behind the power curve so you went back for more training.

outaluckagain

It is not really different when a person washes out due to a family issue. My issue was a dying family member, and the issue was keeping me away from studies during training. I can also tell you that I would not have done much better without the family issue since the training really sucked!

Why don't you do an assessment of what went wrong in the sim. I would be willing to bet that it was your scan, and overload with automation and callouts.

Hey, why not turn this situation around to the positive by calling your employer and asking if they will take you back after Aerosim. Be diplomatic and explain that the time spent in their company sim was an "eye opener" and you have made an assessment concerning what it will take for you to succeed. Go back and finish!

SimJumpSeat

Here's the bottom line:

1. PRIA.....if you took a DOT drug test and received compensation of any kind, DISCLOSE it to future employers.

2. "Washout / Failure" probably isn't the way to look at it. People are sometimes given the option when leaving jobs......"you can quit or we are going to fire you....your choice" That way they can go elsewhere and say they quit for whatever reason.......This sounds like your position with future employers......"I resigned because I was struggling in training and falling behind....I felt my previous experience of 1500 hours in a 182 wasn't very beneficial in airline training."

3. Most likely, nothing is wrong with you and you need to chalk this up as a learning experience and get back to work on the dream.

4. Companies like Flight Safety, Simcom, and Simuflite have "right seat" programs where they provide FREE training in exchange for your volunteer service as a supporting crew member for their single paying clients......the value of this training cannot be OVERSTATED for a low time pilot.

5. You will be able to land interviews in the future......100% guaranteed with some more training and better experience.......182 jumper time and crop dusting is about as worthless as it gets as it pertains to 121 CRM.

Relax and move on.

ClarenceOver

Simuflite is a great place to do it. However the only disadvantage you have is they put you where you will be needed. I was thrown from a cherokee to the challenger 601 and being extremely green and behind is not fun. Hopefully if you are a supporting crew member you will end up on a more basic airplane such as the beechjet or the citation.

SimJumpSeat

But you would agree that this type of training.....

is beneficial experience

is strictly voluntary

is not PRIA reportable, unless you take a checkride and completely bomb it

will prepare the OP for another shot at flying career

Yes or No??

ClarenceOver

Yes i 100% agree. And its almost impossible to bomb the checkride after you have seen the exact same profiles and the exact same ride OVER AND OVER AND OVER. However it is very difficult to get in so i hope he has a good connection. Also i was fortunate enough to only live 10 minutes away from simuflite DFW.